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Hey Joe,

I really like your system. You must be proud of your baby... the Ascents are great speakers! Not to mention the Descent. I heard that sub two weeks ago at Tweeter and it was by far the most accurate sub I have ever heard. We stood a penny on its thin side on the Descent and we played an 18hz sine wave and the penny never fell over!

You have a real nice system!

Joey
 
We used a nickel, when I demo it.:D

The Descent is one of the only subs I have found that can deliver the kind of bass I was looking for. I wanted a sub that was very musical and could blend in with the music, so that you would not know it was playing but suddenly turn around and deliver bass that would kick you in the nuts. Not and easy thing to find a sub like that, I was basically looking for a musical sub like the Rel and the power/slam of a Velodyne in one. I believe I found it, or at least got close to it with the Descent.
 
Zip3kx07 said:
We used a nickel, when I demo it.:D

The Descent is one of the only subs I have found that can deliver the kind of bass I was looking for. I wanted a sub that was very musical and could blend in with the music, so that you would not know it was playing but suddenly turn around and deliver bass that would kick you in the nuts. Not and easy thing to find a sub like that, I was basically looking for a musical sub like the Rel and the power/slam of a Velodyne in one. I believe I found it, or at least got close to it with the Descent.

Got close to it? Blasphemy!

You didnt get close to it, you found it in the Descent. Good job bud!

If I could anchor my system with the Descent (or two), I would be a very ecstatic man. :D
 
Hey; I`ve just ordered a 3 shelf Grandprixaudio Laguna shelf with carbon upgraded shelfsupports for all 3 shelves and apex feet for the rack/floor coupling :) Nice too see that others also have discovered their GREAT equipment :D
 
My Review Of The Anthem Statement D1

I was one of the early adaptors of DVD back in 1997, back then there weren’t too many options out there. You have a small selection of players, most of which were bear bones players before DTS was added, and your choice of receivers with Dolby digital was very slim with only a hand full to choose from.

Fast-forward to today and you have a vast cornucopia of option’s ranging any ware from a few hundred dollars to practically the price of a new beamer. DVD has gone from the format that most were sure would fail to the most successful and fastest selling consumer electronics product of all times. DVD opened the door for high resolution audio and video that had to be seen to believed, DVD has helped sell multi-thousand dollar TV’s, and audio systems most would have said was useless or over kill and walked away from.

With so many options out there today which product do you choose?

Well if your in the market for a surround sound preamp how about the Anthem Statement D1?

The D1 was very easy to integrate into my existing system, in no time at all I was up and running. First I wanted to set up the processor for my system, what I found is the D1 has basic set up features like crossovers, speaker distance, ETC. But the D1 also has some advanced setup feathers that are factory defaulted to off and can be enabled and setup later if you wish. The Notch filter is one of the advanced feathers that I have elected not to enable because it can destroy the sound as fast as it can help it. The notch filter allows you to adjust the sound curve to the acoustics of your room, it is however very tricky to use. The filter will allow you to adjust the center frequency, with, and depth. So you will need to know at what point you have a frequency peak in your room and adjust for its depth and with.

For crossovers you can set a single crossover point any ware between 25Hz-160Hz, any speaker set to small will get this crossover point and any speaker set to large will get the full range single. In advanced settings you can turn on an advanced crossover network that will let you set a different crossover point for each group of speakers (Center, Lift/Right, Surround Left/Right, Back left/right). So you could set the center to 80Hz, the front left/right to 35Hz, surrounds to 70hz, and your back speaker to 80Hz. This would be grate because it would allow you to get the full potential out of your speakers; the only disadvantage to it is it could put a hole in your subwoofers crossover point. Because your main speakers may send some information to the sub under 30Hz and your center may send some information at the same time at around 60Hz, your sub will try and hit two different frequency’s at once which may give you a hole in your crossover or a very undesirable effect. But with a little time it is possible to fine-tune it to have different crossover points.

The D1 has lots of processing power with duel Motorola DSP 56367 engines, Duel 3Mbit 8ns External Cache memory, independent digital audio board, two massive toroidal transformers, and 24-bit/ 192-kHz precision and Upsampling. Upsampling increases the sampling rate of the incoming digital signal. This allows the reconstruction filter to operate at a higher frequency, making it less intrusive in the audible bandwidth. OVERSAMPLING: Along with upsampling, the D1’s DACs also incorporate 128X oversampling to increase the sample rate to 24.576 MHz, thereby ensuring the best phase- and frequency-response possible. This combination of upsampling and oversampling allows the D1 to use much gentler 3rd-order Bessel reconstruction filters. Measurable results are profoundly superior, reflecting exceptionally flat frequency response and THD+N in the upper frequencies up to twenty times lower than some of the best high-end outboard DACs.

Superior digital-to-analog conversion in the D1 is courtesy of our very high-quality DAC design. Here again, we have essentially eliminated ultrasonic noise and distortion in the 20 kHz to 80 kHz frequency band. Our six-layer converter boards use separate analog and digital planes as well as separate power- and groundplanes for the lowest noise possible. Since the D1 also includes our own built-in state-of-the-art Upsampler to convert the sample rate of any incoming digital signal to 192 kHz, the DACs are able to run at the highest speed (192 kHz), regardless of the incoming digital bitstream. The result is extremely low background noise up to almost 100 kHz.

AKM® AK4395 converters operate at their full 24-bit x 192-kHz resolution and switched-capacitor output filters significantly reduce the DAC's sensitivity to rapid fluctuations in the bit rate during the conversion process.

Audio-grade Nichicon® MUSE® Series UK signal-coupling capacitors with low-voltage coefficient ensure minimal distortion and low microphonics—dramatically reducing the DAC’s sensitivity to vibration.

By eliminating the potential for errors in timing, our DAC’s high-accuracy clock generator (49.152 MHz, ±0.001%) makes a substantial contribution to distortion-free performance.

That’s Fine and dandy but how does it sound?

The D1 has a sound that I can’t describe as warm or cold it’s very natural in the scene that it does not draw attention to itself, I find it natural in the scene of a sound being played back as I would expect it would if it were truly in my room. What struck me right off the bat is the D1’s control over the entire frequency range, at no time did the audio become flat lifeless for loose on the bottom end of the frequency range. Every sound was tight controlled and very, very detailed. Every sound seemed to float in midair with grate separation, some processors I find flatten the image so it’s hard to make out anyone particular sound. With the D1 I could make out all the screaming and talking in the background with gun’s blazing.

My first test DVD was Bad Boys 2, I love using this DVD as reference material, some home theaters handle the big chase very well and some just fold up and go home. With Ferrari a blazing and bullets wizing past my head there was no stopping it now lets see what happens when they take the 18-wheeler on the freeway. With every car falling off the back of the truck my couch would vibrate as if there was an actuator under it, but no that’s all ML Descent with the D1, it truly felt like I was there and was living in the action.

One area the D1 has done better then every other receiver or pre-amp I have tried, is shifting sound from front to back. My over all goal with my setup is to get the sounds to move around the room from one speaker to another with out them changing in volume level, detail, or tone. This may sound easy but every receiver or pre-amp I have tried could not convincingly do this, the D1 is the first to take a male voice and start it at the center speaker and move it to the right speaker to the right back, left back, front left and back to center convincingly without making me take notice to its change or movement. In bad Boys 2 gunfire from the main speakers had the same tone as it did in the back speakers. With the SunFire Theater Grand III this was not the case, gunfire up front sound good but in the rear speakers it had a hollow unrealistic quality to it.

Closing Comments.

The Anthem Statement D1 is by far the best pre-amp I have ever tried, and is defiantly a keeper. I find a lot of time’s as you change components you sometimes give up a little something the other component had, in order in gain in another area the new one has. In the case of my old Sunfire Theater grand III it was not as grand as I thought, I don’t miss it, in fact there is nothing but the remote the Sunfire came with that I miss. The D1 does perform on another level the Sunfire could not.

Anthem Made the D1 to compete with every high-end processor out there like Lexicon, Theta, Meridian, ETC, and better them with better performance and a reasonable price. I don’t think the D1 quite has the transparence of a Lexicon MC-12B or the DAC’s of the Theta Casablanca, I do feel it is in the same league as the high end gear with out the stupid price tag. All that high-end gear has one thing in common; it is at the point of diminishing returns.

Anthem is coming out with a D2 processor and an upgrade for current D1 owners that will add 4 HDMI video inputs and 1 output along with video scaling using the Gennum chip. Anthem hope’s to have the D2 backwards compatible with Hi-Def DVD when it comes out early next year, so with my fingers crossed I hope the D1 will be the last processor I buy for at least a few years. Anthem has also said they are working on auto room EQ’ing feature that with the assistance of a microphone in your listing position will automatically setup the D2’s EQ to compensate for your acoustic peaks and dip’s, like Pioneer’s MCACC.
 

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The first thing i thought (after wiping the drool of my chin at the speakers) was "Cool posters, but doesn't the glass in the frames create a difference in timing vs the wall behind the speakers?"

Have i been reading too much Absolute Sound or do such things make much of a difference?
 
BearcatSandor said:
The first thing i thought (after wiping the drool of my chin at the speakers) was "Cool posters, but doesn't the glass in the frames create a difference in timing vs the wall behind the speakers?"

Have i been reading too much Absolute Sound or do such things make much of a difference?

Room accoustics aren't as important for HT as they are for two channel audio. Two channel requires the creation of super accurate stero image from, of course, just two speakers. With HT, you are being bombarded from an array of mulitple speakers surrounding the room and, importantly, one doing center fill. Additionally, you have the video to distract you from the audio picture.

The glass would tend to make things bright though. You can over dampen the crap out of a HT and you can't with two channel. Two channel needs the reflections, HT uses multiple speaker to substitute for the reflections. For two channel diffusion is better than dampening.
 
BearCatSandor & jjqiv,

First the pictures do not have glass fronts; they are very thin lexan fronts, far less reflective than glass. I have tried the system with and with out the posters, and with out the posters the room become somewhat dead muddy, they reflect and diffuse the sound. The corners of the room are acoustically treated to dampen while the posters somewhat help to diffuse the sound. I will admit there is a little compromise in performance for the look.

I have posed before saying I am a renter, I don’t own a house, so buying acoustic treatments is rather hard because I keep changing rooms, so my acoustics change along with the room. Until I get a Permanente room for my system my treatments will probably stay DIY.
 
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Cool! It's so great that people consider these things. I love this hobby!
 
Zip3kx07 said:
BearCatSandor & jjqiv,

First the pictures do not have glass fronts; they are very thin lexan fronts, far less reflective than glass. I have tried the system with and with out the posters, and with out the posters the room become somewhat dead muddy, they reflect and diffuse the sound. The corners of the room are acoustically treated to dampen while the posters somewhat help to diffuse the sound. I will admit there is a little compromise in performance for the look.

I have posed before saying I am a renter, I don’t own a house, so buying acoustic treatments is rather hard because I keep changing rooms, so my acoustics change along with the room. Until I get a Permanente room for my system my treatments will probably stay DIY.

I'm using DIY corner and wall seam treatments. They make a difference in my set-up. We had a thread on this topic a while back.
 
What a beauty...

Joe,

Your Anthem D1, looks fantastic!!! :D but you aready know that... Thank you for the photo, of the D1, it looks just great in your system... I am glad you were able, to post a photo, so soon. As I said before, your review of the D1, was just excellent too.

You know, the D1 would look marvalous with the P5, underneath... :D :D :D

Enjoy, Joe...

Cheers

-Robin
 
Thank you robin.

I am not sure if getting the D1 was a good thing for a bad thing? Now that I have it I want the A5 or P5 that much more. The D1 is a grate piece that will hopefully be supported by anthem for quite awhile, Anthem has said they would like the D1 to be backwards compatible with Hi-Def DVD till pre-amps start processing the new sound formats for them selves, at that time a successor will replace the D2.

At first the only way Hi-Def DVD will work is with HDMI and the player will do the sound processing, a year or two down the road the receivers/ pre-amps can and will do the decoding. So I should be safe with the D2 upgrade and my pre-amp will not be obsolete any time soon.

Take care
Joe
 
Anthem D1...

Zip3kx07 said:
Thank you robin.

I am not sure if getting the D1 was a good thing for a bad thing? Now that I have it I want the A5 or P5 that much more. The D1 is a grate piece that will hopefully be supported by anthem for quite awhile, Anthem has said they would like the D1 to be backwards compatible with Hi-Def DVD till pre-amps start processing the new sound formats for them selves, at that time a successor will replace the D2.

At first the only way Hi-Def DVD will work is with HDMI and the player will do the sound processing, a year or two down the road the receivers/ pre-amps can and will do the decoding. So I should be safe with the D2 upgrade and my pre-amp will not be obsolete any time soon.

Take care
Joe

Joe,

If you or I, ever had enough money to purchase our opposite pieces of Anthem equipment, we would both have even more stellar systems, than we currently have, as I'm sure you would agree... :D

I am glad that Anthem is offering up-grades for you D1. I'm thinking / dreaming of the future Anthem processor, only it will probably be called, "D3 or D4", by then, as I will not be able to purchase an Amthem processor for about 5 - 7 years... :eek: Oh well, The Anthem processor is on my list and in my dreams... :D

Enjoy your beautiful new toy, Joe

Cheers

-Robin
 
Robin said:
Joe,

If you or I, ever had enough money to purchase our opposite pieces of Anthem equipment, we would both have even more stellar systems, than we currently have, as I'm sure you would agree... :D


For sure, that would be one killer system. :D

I wish I had your P5, because I am dying to upgrade my Sunfire amp. But I think I have decided to go with the A5 for now and later when I get my electrical setup to handle the P5 I will pick one up.

I am glad that Anthem is offering up-grades for you D1. I'm thinking / dreaming of the future Anthem processor, only it will probably be called, "D3 or D4", by then, as I will not be able to purchase an Amthem processor for about 5 - 7 years... :eek: Oh well, The Anthem processor is on my list and in my dreams... :D [quote/]

Well you know what they say? Good things come to those who wait.

Enjoy your beautiful new toy, Joe

Thank you Robin, I most certainly will.

Take care

And thank you for being apart of the club, you have defiantly helped make this a better place.
 
Thank You Dolfin,

I really love my system and am paining my next changes. I don’t think too much will stay the same from what you see when I get done, so stay tuned. :D
 
Which Blue-Ray DVD player strikes your fancy...

Zip3kx07 said:
Thank You Dolfin,

I really love my system and am paining my next changes. I don’t think too much will stay the same from what you see when I get done, so stay tuned. :D
Joe,

I know you what to wait and see, but which company or brand will you be watching more closely, from what you've seen so far?
A Blue-Ray brand DVD player strikes your fancy? You will not be looking at another Pioneer Elite, like your Pioneer Elite DV-59Avi.... ;) I know you are looking for a player with the decoding DTS-HD and True DTS DD chips already built in, with HMDI capability. If you don't know now I'll understand... But do let us know when you see a good player. Whatever you decide will work great in your totally awesome system, Joe.

Cheers

-Robin
 
Robin said:
Joe,

I know you what to wait and see, but which company or brand will you be watching more closely, from what you've seen so far?
A Blue-Ray brand DVD player strikes your fancy? You will not be looking at another Pioneer Elite, like your Pioneer Elite DV-59Avi.... ;) I know you are looking for a player with the decoding DTS-HD and True DTS DD chips already built in, with HMDI capability. If you don't know now I'll understand... But do let us know when you see a good player. Whatever you decide will work great in your totally awesome system, Joe.

Cheers

-Robin

The Pioneer looks to be about as bear bones as a player gets. No DTS-HD or Dolby Plus decoding, No SACD, DVD-Audio, or Red Book CD playback. On the plus side, that player looks to have the best video playback, of all the Hi-Def players.

I have hi hopes for Sony’s Blu-Ray player, if all go’s well it should have the decoders built in, and it’s RUMORED to playback SACD and Red Book.

I think I would give my coolest looking player award to sharps player.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/ces2006/gallery01.html
 
Sony's BR looks cool too...

Zip3kx07 said:
The Pioneer looks to be about as bear bones as a player gets. No DTS-HD or Dolby Plus decoding, No SACD, DVD-Audio, or Red Book CD playback. On the plus side, that player looks to have the best video playback, of all the Hi-Def players.

I have hi hopes for Sony’s Blu-Ray player, if all go’s well it should have the decoders built in, and it’s RUMORED to playback SACD and Red Book.

I think I would give my coolest looking player award to sharps player.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/ces2006/gallery01.html
Joe,

Thank you for the wonderful internet link of the CES show. It was great to see all of the new up-coming Blue-Ray DVD players, along with some of the new titles coming soon. I think, I will buy "Kill Bill" and "Kill Bill 2", again in Blue-Ray... :eek:
I hope the rumors are true about Sonys decoders and playback... ;)
 
Robin said:
Joe,

Thank you for the wonderful internet link of the CES show. It was great to see all of the new up-coming Blue-Ray DVD players, along with some of the new titles coming soon. I think, I will buy "Kill Bill" and "Kill Bill 2", again in Blue-Ray... :eek:
I hope the rumors are true about Sonys decoders and playback... ;)

If you follow that link, and scroll down to the bottom of the page there is a button to jump over to the next page that has all the players that were at the show. On every page there is a link to jump to the next page, the coverage keeps going from Blu-Rays hardware and software to HD-DVD's hardware and software.

Some good stuff there.
 
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