I just ordered my new system. McIntosh MVP861...Nad Masters Series M15 & M25...Vantage in black and Depth in Black. Sold off my Infinity Intermezzo to help pay for the system. I went with the NAD after listening to Mac MX119 & MC207, Krell Showcase & Denon AVR5805. I liked the Mac stuff the best but it came in at $13,000 vs $6000 for the NAD. NAD was a very close second and at 1/2 the price it allowed me to buy the DVD player I really wanted. Next purchase is the Stage once I see it. I will probally upgrade to the Descent and Summits in a year. It is about 3/4 weeks away. I will keep you posted.