Joey,Joey_V said:So is it correct to say that the new wave of digital receivers sound better than the previous generation of regular receivers?
Does this mean that even digital receivers compete with separates now (in terms of amplification)?
Is this the end for traditional super amps from Krell and Levinson?
I just wonder if they have overcome some of the past limitations and have finally made enough progress to actually call class "D" audiphile approved. I have not spent time listening, but you never know what the new stuff is like. Hell, I am from the old school and if it dont weigh a ton and get really hot it can't be an amp, so I am with ya, but maybe an old dog can learn a new trick.Zip3kx07 said:After having my Sunfire for a few years now I am on a mission to replace it, and I don’t plain on ever buying another one again. The idea of a small box with lots of power and little heat is a grate idea but the sound lacks accuracy, bass punch, and those finer dynamics. The casual listener my like an amp like the Sunfire, but for a critical listener, I would pick a different amp.
You forgot the... glowing glass tubes! On the otherhand, there are notable "new school" products from Jeff Rowland Design (model 201), Channel Island Audio, and NuForce. I've never heard any of these amps, but lots of people raved about these already that I'm almost tempted to audition one of these days.stesom said:Hell, I am from the old school and if it dont weigh a ton and get really hot it can't be an amp, so I am with ya, but maybe an old dog can learn a new trick.
Mark, if heat is what you're after, better put on your flame suit fast for they're coming!!!MarkNewbie said:Somebody is sure to step up and flame me.
Spike, your advice has been duely noted and will be followed. Most likely followed by screams of agony on my part. HeheheSpike said:Mark, if heat is what you're after, better put on your flame suit fast for they're coming!!!
Mark,MarkNewbie said:I have to admit that this is a very interesting discussion as one of the measurements of a good Amp is just how many watts of power are in the Class A realm. I have seen from as little as 3 to as much as 70. It was one of the criteria that I used in selecting my amp. Some of the Class D supporting documentation that I am seeing on here and in some google searches, is predominately coming from people trying to sell us Class D equipment. I think that is significant in and of itself. I find the loss of power vs. lack of heat arguement weak at best. If heat, lots of watts, and Class A power gives better sound, isn't that what we are all seeking? Just my thoughts. Somebody is sure to step up and flame me but please remember, this is only my opinion and I ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Cool...which ones have your heard and which have you liked?Robin said:If we're talking SS, my ears prefer the loverly sound of Class A amplifiers.
Never say never.For my ears I will probably never own a class D, although I strongly considered class D and auditioned Sunfire's Cinema Grand, it's just not my preferred sound. Having said that, I will continue to keep an open mind to any new improvements or inventions in class D. Occasionally auditioning a class D here and their is fun too...
Dan,DTB300 said:Cool...which ones have your heard and which have you liked?
Never say never.
The Channel Islands Amps are getting some very nice reviews, along with Nuforce - which is a modification of the Class D amps, and some others that slip my mind for now. Until I can actually listen to one of these amps, it is hard for me to ever say I would never buy one.
Joey_V said:Is this the end for traditional super amps from Krell and Levinson?
Agreed. I heard the eVo 2 hooked up to Ascent i's around a year ago, and it simply blew me away. The purity of sound from this combination was just mind-blowing. I'm just not sure about the longevity of the IC based design that they're using. . . . time will tell though!tsd2005 said:Bel Canto hooked up to Martin Logans is one of the best combos I've ever heard now that I think about it.