Linn has announced that it will cease production of CD players.

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Streaming hi-res tracks (24/96 or 24/192) via USB, firewire, or S/PDIF, into a state-of-the-art DAC (Berkeley Audio, Weiss, +/- Benchmark, others) supposedly gets you pretty close (arguably 100%) to SACD or analog. If SACD (or DVD-A) sounds better, it's more likely due to better recording and mastering, rather than a limitation of the file format. No doubt Linn's announcement was intended as marketing hype for it's line of audio streamers, but I'm sure they truly believe they have the "goods" to back up their claim.


I did extensive auditioning of Meridian vs. computer files/ Berkeley dac combo using red book cd's.

Meridian was the clear winner to my ears. However, the Berkley was close. It just did not have the air, space, separation of instruments, and the natural flow of music a top tier cd player has.

Also, I know folks who did extensive comparison of Ayre c5-xe with the new apodizing filter vs. Ayre dac with apodizing filter and files stored an a Mac. They say it was very close.

Whay I conclude from this is that if one already has a great cd player (Meridian is is $16K or $18K and Ayre is $6K), it's not worth the hassle. However, as more music is released in high res formats computer servers and dacs is the wave of the future.
 
It's not that I don't like the music server thing, I just don't like being an IT guy.
I am an IT guy, but I am definitely not a computer hobbyist, i.e. not an IT guy at home. Besides, I can't help but wonder what happens when your computer takes a dump as a result of a virus, etc. Then you are out of music as well.
 
I am an IT guy, but I am definitely not a computer hobbyist, i.e. not an IT guy at home. Besides, I can't help but wonder what happens when your computer takes a dump as a result of a virus, etc. Then you are out of music as well.

That's the whole point of backing up your files on multiple drives.
 
not to get sort of of subject but what software can i use to make digital recordings from my records I use xp operating system
 
not to get sort of of subject but what software can i use to make digital recordings from my records I use xp operating system

You want to copy (or "rip) your CDs to the hard drive on your XP system? iTunes (in Apple Lossless) will do an okay job, but if you want to get serious, use EAC (Exact Audio Copy) or dBPowerAmp and rip to FLAC.
 
You want to copy (or "rip) your CDs to the hard drive on your XP system? iTunes (in Apple Lossless) will do an okay job, but if you want to get serious, use EAC (Exact Audio Copy) or dBPowerAmp and rip to FLAC.

black pizza to digital ! that's what I am trying to accomplish
 
I'm not overly suprized by this anouncement. Linn's streaming player is seriously good and quite frankly, I'm stunned at the lack of availability for CD's these days. As already mentioned, unless you want the very latest mainstream drivel or have access to a really good muisc store, chances are slim to none that you'll find what you want in your neighborhood. Case in point, I used to enjoy browzing the music section at my local Barnes and Noble or Borders when I was there picking up books or magazines. Both of them had very decent Jazz and Classical sections. Just this week I was in Borders and I couldn't believe that the music area that used to occupy an entire corner of the store was now down to literally a single short asile and an end cap for the Beatles remasters (I did pick up the Beatles Mono's for only $239.00!). But otherwise, what a load of crap!

Having lived with my Sonos system for 9 months or so now I still am enamored with it, HOWEVER, I recently lost one of the drives in my NAS, so with it I lost the ability to stream my music without a computer on. I have to plug in my backup hard drive while I wait for a replacement for the NAS, and then I need to see how redundant RAID really is. I won't be out too much music, but I hadn't backed up for 3-4 months, so I may have to re-rip 30-40 discs. I'm happy listening to lossless files through the Sonos feeding my Dodson Audio DAC, but since the Sonos has been down for awhile I've been spending more time listening to my Esoteric player. As good as the streaming audio can be, the Esoteric does indeed still give it a real run for the money especially in the area of soundstaging, and on SACD it can't compare. I've really been enjoying the Esoteric a lot lately. And, not wanting to start any of the format war threads, I still find my vinyl rig gives me even more connection, but at the cost of time. If I've got the time to really just sit and listen I seem to always gravitate to my LP's, and they still give me the most goosebumps.

The thing I miss most about the Sonos right now is the utter convenience. When I'm working I can just set it to randomly play everything in my collection and have unlimited music for as long as I want.

I think I'll always be a multi-format listener, and I think I'll appreciate my dedicated local music stores all the more for both LP's and CD's when I have the chance to go support them. Someday I'll probably get into the Hi-Rez download scene as it continues to evolve too. Bottom line, I just plain love good music regardless of format.

Post Script - I've really, really been trying to avoid some audio porn sites like The Tape Project and J-Corder lately because I've recently developed an abiding interest (fetish?) in Reel-to-Reel tape decks. I think that a Technics RS-1520 would set me right. Must resist the temptation. How's THAT for an "obsolete" technology?
 

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No doubt Linn's announcement was intended as marketing hype for it's line of audio streamers, but I'm sure they truly believe they have the "goods" to back up their claim.

Looks like Ivor's tossing the caber again... of course, they'd never make a CD player cos they didn't sound as good as records i.e. an LP12. They then proceeded to make them.

This story made the BBC TV News, where Ivor T was interviewed, so I hear.
 
I am an IT guy, but I am definitely not a computer hobbyist, i.e. not an IT guy at home. Besides, I can't help but wonder what happens when your computer takes a dump as a result of a virus, etc. Then you are out of music as well.

I am an IT guy too. It's just that IT doesn't relax me, music does. I really don't like mixing the two, but the benefits are there!
 
I am an IT guy too. It's just that IT doesn't relax me, music does. I really don't like mixing the two, but the benefits are there!

Some of the best UML design and C#/C++ coding I have ever done I owe to the Nine Inch Nails...:rocker: I mean, how can you possibly concentrate without that sort of input?:D
 
Some of the best UML design and C#/C++ coding I have ever done I owe to the Nine Inch Nails...:rocker: I mean, how can you possibly concentrate without that sort of input?:D

Geez - I'm the exact opposite. I was thinking that about Tim's post as well. I can't concentrate on something else when music is playing - it is one or the other for me.

The ONLY time I turn my system on is when I am sitting, eyes closed, doing nothing other than listening to music. If it is background music I want, I always use one of the other lower-end systems.
 
Yeah, but it's more likely that you can pick up a virus than your CDP/TT being on the fritz.

Sometimes, something will go wrong with any of CDP / TT or computer. The important thing is the data is backed up because that is where all the hard work is.

As for computers being more likely for something to go wrong - yes - absolutely! But then again, computers are more of a commodity too. If my SB Server crashes then I can switch it to any multitude of other servers or laptops in my house and be back listening again in about 10 minutes.

In fact - I actually keep a "Test/Development" SB server for testing new releases, etc. It is ready to go with the flick of the power button should anything go wrong with my Prod server, so in reality I can actually reduce the silence time to about 1.5 minutes in the event of a catastrophic hardware or software failure. A friend of mine does a similar thing by using VMs. His SB server VM can be run up on any hardware he likes, so there are many options.

If something goes wrong with my CDP or TT then it is silence for three or four weeks while I box it up and send it down to Sydney for repair.

"Swings and roundabouts" comes to mind......
 
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If something goes wrong with my CDP or TT then it is silence for three or four weeks while I box it up and send it down to Sydney for repair.
Nah, if something goes wrong with my CDP I still have my TT to listen to, and vice versa. :music:
 
Nah, if something goes wrong with my CDP I still have my TT to listen to, and vice versa. :music:
...and if my computer goes down I can still listen to the hard copies on CD...

I would gladly take the small risk of a virus to have the huge convenience of having my entire CD collection and albums that will never be released on any format availible at my fingertips.

Besides, in over 20years of computing I have never had a virus completely disable my system. And if there ever was a fire at my place my entire music collection and my entire photo collection is backed-up.
 
i use either EAC, Sony Soundforge, or Steinbergs WaveLab to rip anything 2 channel. i use an Audiophile 192 sound card so i can rip analog as high as 24/192. it also has Digital inputs i use for DAT tapes and other digital media.
 
Post Script - I've really, really been trying to avoid some audio porn sites like The Tape Project and J-Corder lately because I've recently developed an abiding interest (fetish?) in Reel-to-Reel tape decks. I think that a Technics RS-1520 would set me right. Must resist the temptation. How's THAT for an "obsolete" technology?

Hey Tim - I've got a fetish for reel as well. The true audiophile format - none of this low-end consumerist stuff like LP or CD! These were developed for serious sound and NOT for consumers........I want, real bad!
 
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