Gordon Gray
Well-known member
Timm,
Agreed. See Post No. 168.
Gordon
Agreed. See Post No. 168.
Gordon
I do want to attack the deficit in a way that leads to a strong recovery and handles long term the questions of SS and Medicare . After this election and the show of ignorance of the numbers that Karl Rove and his ilk put on, I have no confidence in the Republican Party to add correctly. They seem to only want to add Right. The far left of the Democratic Party are just as bad, since they don't understand the consequences on uncontrolled spending .
Let the nerds get together and come up with a rational plan.
J
I would argue that Obama is part of that far left of the Democratic party. Redistribution of wealth is fairly far left in the first place. Not to mention he doesn't understand the consequences of uncontrolled spending at all, made perfectly clear by his first term where he added $6 trillion to the national debt.
I would argue that Obama is part of that far left of the Democratic party. Redistribution of wealth is fairly far left in the first place. Not to mention he doesn't understand the consequences of uncontrolled spending at all, made perfectly clear by his first term where he added $6 trillion to the national debt.
You wanna talk about where all our debt has come from. Fine. Watch this video, and then let's talk . . . using actual facts and real math.
Any group that would choose ORCA to model it's path to electoral victory over Nate Siver's free analysis deserves the results it gets. A clear eyed look at Nate's numbers would have led to a better approach for Romney and perhaps a win. It also says something about that groups ability to think clearly instead of looking at world with tinted glasses.
Going forward , a clear analysis of the financial problems facing us is an imperative to deciding which path to take for the betterment of us all.
J
There is no use debating with anyone on this forum anymore. You continue to believe what you want. Spouting that conservatives aren't using real math and that liberals are is just ridiculous.
The bottom line is that an increasing number of Americans are demanding more government handouts and are refusing to actually work for a living. How other people that work very hard on a daily basis think that it is okay to let people continue getting away with this is beyond me.
I have never, ever, ever accepted handouts and honestly if I was forced into a situation where I required that safety net, I would work my ass off to get to a point where I didn't need the assistance.
Unfortunately people no longer have the work ethic or self respect to work hard and accept the blessings that come with being an American citizen.
The mindset has now become, "What can my country do for me, not what can I do for my country". Sad day!
That is all I have to say and I will not be commenting in this thread again.
Spouting that conservatives aren't using real math and that liberals are is just ridiculous.
The bottom line is that an increasing number of Americans are demanding more government handouts and are refusing to actually work for a living.
That is all I have to say and I will not be commenting in this thread again.
This discussion that leans toward 'the nation has spoken' baffles me. When you consider popular vote isn't it really only a 1.01% swing? Wow now thats a quorum. !
Actually, when you consider the circumstances, it is pretty significant. The republicans had the best economic environment to overturn an incumbent democrat possibly ever. It was the first time in something like more than fifty years that an incumbent has been re-elected with an unemployment rate over 7%. Romney had a much more respectable vice presidential candidate than John McCain four years ago, yet Romney received almost 3 million less votes than McCain did. I don't think he won a single swing state. The republicans lost not only the Presidency, but they lost seats in both the Senate and the House. While it may not have been an overwhelming victory according to the popular vote, make no mistake about it. This election was a serious political victory for the democrats and gives them a lot of clout heading into the next two years before the next Congressional elections.
Rich,
I think runnin's comments clearly underscore the state of the Republican party.
Rich. I think what u just said was that things are currently so crappy in the country that 1% is in fact significant?
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