PrimaLuna

[ktchnman]

Good Afternoon, fellow ML aficionados. Has anybody in our small universe had any experience with any of the PrimaLuna amplifiers and ML speakers?

http://www.martinloganowners.com/forum/showthread.php?14619-System-461-(Theos

 

[roberto]

Hola. If you are not seeking for high power, hi SPL level sound, those are a jewel to use with ML speaker. A little bit thick at the lower mid-range upper bass, but nothing to be worried about. Crystal clear highs, and deep bass. I do like them a lot. Happy listening.

 

[ktchnman]

Thanks for your input, Roberto. I'm looking at the Dialogue 5, and power is my only reservation. I have been using relatively high power s/s and hybrid stuff up until now, The Cary 200.2 and now the Rogue Medusa....but thinking about the PrimaLuna after speaking with Kevin (who is the importer, so may be a little less then totally objective, LOL). Also whether the Mono Blocs are worth the difference from the one-chassis Power amp.

 

[coolcobramatt]

Thanks for your input, Roberto. I'm looking at the Dialogue 5, and power is my only reservation. I have been using relatively high power s/s and hybrid stuff up until now, The Cary 200.2 and now the Rogue Medusa....but thinking about the PrimaLuna after speaking with Kevin (who is the importer, so may be a little less then totally objective, LOL). Also whether the Mono Blocs are worth the difference from the one-chassis Power amp.

I'll babysit the Medusa for awhile free of charge

 

[ktchnman]

The Medusa is a lovely unit, and I just upgraded the tubes (made a major difference!!). This addiction is a sickness. I wonder if there's a 12 step program...but first you have to want to, right?

 

[coolcobramatt]

The Medusa is a lovely unit, and I just upgraded the tubes (made a major difference!!). This addiction is a sickness. I wonder if there's a 12 step program...but first you have to want to, right?

First step is to send it to me...best route to recovery

 

[Bernard]

Todd (tsv_1) initially used a pair of PrimaLuna monoblocks to drive his CLXes, and found them lacking in power.

 

[projectormovielover]

I bought 2 mono's on april

 

[ktchnman]

and.......

 

[projectormovielover]

LOL

They sound great, they do not sound overly bright but once you break them in they are incredibly clear but remaining sweet and musical. I do not think the bass is all that great as it is a tad bloated but it works great on some tracks and you notice it less with native 192khz high resolution downloads.

I put in some good wireworld power cords and the bloating reduced alot and then adding gold electra's made them a better performer in the clarity department. They have a very good timing or decay? when it comes from one note ending and another starting.

I was listening to alice in chains mtv unplugged and I was hearing a diff tone inthe singing almost like he was out of key but he was not it was just the prima's letting me hear the music without it being colored

 

[ktchnman]

Are those the Prologues or the Dialogues, and the 6 or the 7 models? which tubes are you listening to?

 

[coolcobramatt]

projectormovielover is a Wireworld unpaid rep by the way lol...

 

[projectormovielover]

They are the prologue 6 models that come with the el34's from primaluna. I wanted to burn em in all the way before I moved on to the shuguang kt88 treasures. To answer coolcobramatt, I am starting to feel that way so I went out and ordered the best pangea power cords and usb cable they offer to do some comparisons as I am starting to feel like a fan boy lol ....... they way its going though I fear it may not change. The pangea is the biggest most absurd ac cable I have seen in my life but it cannot hold a candle to the Electra ac and is slightly below par of the Aurora at this stage of the burn in. The usb cable is not that great either

 

[ktchnman]

Which ML's are you using them with? I was considering the Dialogue 7's if I go the Mono-bloc route, with the KT-88's. Although, he does have the "reviewer's sample" of yours up for what I think is a good price. The other question I'm toying over is whether the Dialogue 5 is big enough.

 

[projectormovielover]

I would go with the mono's as they are going to sound better with their own PS. I use Vista and they are hard to get moving and these do pretty good but I dont like to listen real . You can add kt88's for bigger sound just like the pro 7's but I plan to have my 6's modded so no need for the higher price 7. If you have the cash then a pair of dialogue 6 mono's would wipe the floor with mine if you plan on listening at high volume

 

[coolcobramatt]

I would go with the mono's as they are going to sound better with their own PS. I use Vista and they are hard to get moving and these do pretty good but I dont like to listen real . You can add kt88's for bigger sound just like the pro 7's but I plan to have my 6's modded so no need for the higher price 7. If you have the cash then a pair of dialogue 6 mono's would wipe the floor with mine if you plan on listening at high volume

there are prologue 7's on Agon right now, I was considering them after you sent me that pic of yours and your glowing recommendation. So the d7's are a step above?

 

[projectormovielover]

A very big step up from what I have, Loads of headroom and better bass,highs and separation. I would have got them myself but I had to buy a Dac, spkr cbls, ic's, pwr crds, usb cbls and amps all at the same time so these were the best I could get for the money

 

[coolcobramatt]

A very big step up from what I have, Loads of headroom and better bass,highs and separation. I would have got them myself but I had to buy a Dac, spkr cbls, ic's, pwr crds, usb cbls and amps all at the same time so these were the best I could get for the money

buy my Krell and I might grab them..dang it then I need another preamp..argh..sorry for hijack OP

 

[timm]

Thanks for your input, Roberto. I'm looking at the Dialogue 5, and power is my only reservation. I have been using relatively high power s/s and hybrid stuff up until now, The Cary 200.2 and now the Rogue Medusa....but thinking about the PrimaLuna after speaking with Kevin (who is the importer, so may be a little less then totally objective, LOL). Also whether the Mono Blocs are worth the difference from the one-chassis Power amp.

For what its worth kevin steered me away from a prologue 3 preamp he said it would be a bad impedance match with my sunfire amp

So that leads me to my next question if you go monos what preamp?

 

[ktchnman]

Kevin says my current Pre-amp, ARC SP 11 Mk II is a real good choice. He agrees with me that it's better than what ARC has produced more recently, plus I did (actually, had done) a bunch of up-grades to it. I do have one nonsense problem with either amp, though. He thought the KT-120 Tung Sol's might be the way to go, tube-wise, because of my ML's and the size of my room, but I've read that you can't use the cage with those because they're 1/2 inch taller. I show cats, so the cage is a plus, LOL. It's always the little things, right?