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I can honestly say , I dont miss mine! Albeit great in many areas at a lot my room or my ears didn't agree ! Time , age or speakers just wouldn't all line up.. It took three pair of demo speakers to prove it but it was obvious !

Having owned Quest's and ReQuest's and CLS 1a I would say CLS will reward you with a sound that's much more REAL.. Bass is real if you have a high current amp.. It falls like a guillotine after 35 hz.. Subs are not mandatory but there in lies the issue.. You need a great sub.. I used a Rythmik...

To my ears the 15 and 11 sounded bad . Way to bright and it was room as they were crammed in there.. The Neolith threw a huge stage almost to big .. At 80K Id be looking around before a spent my $ on them The TAD room was realy nice with a easy to listen to monitor.. The New Serbian ESL...

I am Officially ML -less. After a long weekend at AXPONA getting ears treated.. I worked a deal on some Porsche Amethyst, Wilson Sophia's from a good friend . I love the sound of the three way design and bass and stage detail is outstanding.. We will see how they do in my room soon...

I have tried to not admit it. I like the panel sound but with my ears I hear better detail placement with dynamic drivers.. Not just detail but aura and size that is more refined .. Like I said this room may have a lot to do with it as I know ML can sing Amazing grace

Ok, I have to come clean and admit it.. I am selling my ML odyssey.. Not that anything is wrong with them but rather I have been playing with dynamic cones and find them easier to blend and place in this room.. Although the Odyssey play well there is something tiny missing and it may be the...

Swap speaker cables from left to right and if sound fallows its a AMP issue.. Caps going bad. Panels slowly start to fade . It also can be a power board going bad and ML used to tell you to swap those and see if it fallows. If so its bad.. Lots of detective work finding these things out but it...

Maybe that Northern air will be the ultimate tweak !

Mark its not a matter of WINNING as we all are crazy for what we do.. Its a matter of how you address the issue that is being discussed.. How you make passive aggressive remarks about others beliefs or testing. Trusting ONLY what you believe.. It is your choice to do what you want and what...

What I do find coincidental is every thing that is subjective and may have a advantage is immediately discounted by you.. Do you have a statue of Ethan Winner on your mantel? Its apparent he is your idol.. You have in many threads made ABSOLUTE statements with NO valid facts other than a...

That shows your lack of passion and determination... Category one you fit in !.. Why would you not give your highly placement sensitive speakers a fighting chance and take any FREE variables out of the equation.. DID I SAY FREE!! Not $1000 hope !! Its OK that you feel that way but cutting...

Thanks guys.. It was a long conversation with a friend on setting up a new set of speakers that sparked it! I could not iterate enough that it will take a while to adjust..

Synergy is key .. Taking time to blend and work with the room.. Most today are sadly not dedicated two channel listeners. Like you they use a processors x over to high pass their speakers. I think it can work well but I have separate HT and two channel systems. I like the 210 and would be all...

With today's ever detailed orientated consumer and the many tweaks to choose from. We sometimes opt for $1000 cords $ 2000 speaker wires, room treatment,costly stands and custom spikes or dampening pads. We are constantly striving to fool our ear brain continuum into a better sounding system We...

I would want something permanently mounted to my plinth or rack. Especially with a Esoteric Mc carts.. I could see topple over or worse a Alligator like jaw with a jumping antelope when that clamp potentially vibrates off.. I would be out a rare Stanton 681 EEE's .Stylus but not a $2k or better...

Hello ! Always welcome a mod type !

I was figuring on seeing you..Actually hoping as you have done more active x over work than many.. I do agree that a sub system can be of great competition to any FULL range speaker.. I also agree with FULLY controllable x overs.. You your self have done both high pass and low pass over lap...

Ok I know this will ruffle some feathers of a few as there are many that have pockets so deep they will succumb to the best sales pitch . Its not a bash on ML or a product but rather my insights and opinions! might draw insults or laughs :devil: Besides its audio related and seems debating is...

I dont know,, Seems probable! The call it the same thing they did "Force forward" the Prod, Oddy series... I still like my own amps powering the woofers imposing its signature rather than blending .. I do agree they did a great job

The term Cardoid is used so scientifically... From my understanding its a separate enclosure for each woofer. Tuned to different frequencies. After talking to the the West coast rep he iterated that its very principle as the Prodigy, Odyssey series.. Just Powered