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  1. J

    Summits; Tubes vs SS

    Hi, I have been running my ML Summits with Pass Labs x250 and x-1 pre, love the sound, but am wondering what tubes would do for them?
  2. J

    Summit; need new panels? Do they "wear out"?

    Thanks! As I suspected. Thanks guys, They sound as good today as when I bought them. joeb
  3. J

    Summit; need new panels? Do they "wear out"?

    Hi, I have a set of Summits, manufactured the last year of production before they changed to the Summit X model. I Have been traveling and was unable to enjoy them so I put them up for sale. some guy tried to low-ball me by telling me they probably needed new panels as they "wear out" or some...
  4. J

    center channel/avr power

    well, ok, it always seems to come down to an "upgrade". I wish there was a way I could power it with my Pass 250, but I'd have to by-pass the AVR, so I wouldn't even be getting the right surround mix on movies unless there is a way to do a pass through on the x-1 pre-amp and not blow up the...
  5. J

    center channel/avr power

    Hi, I just picked up a new center channel for my system, ML Cinema. Fronts are ML Summit, rears are old (but good) Vandersteen 2ci's. I don't have a sub, figure I really don't need one since the Summits are tasty. My AVR processor is a Harmon Kardon unit. I am using that to power my center...
  6. J

    what center channel?

    Well, I've had a set of ML Summit's for about a year now. I've been strictly 2 channel for a long time. I decided to get back into home theatre and went overboard and bought a new 50" Samsung Plasma HDTV. I am using an old set of Vandersteens 2ci's for rears but need a center. I was...
  7. J

    Center channel for Summit?

    well, even tho there is only 6 responses, the Stage has the votes. Now to see if I can find a used one. I am using a HK AVR 500 5.1 processor (85watts) for the Home Theatre surround sound. It will power the center and rears but my Pass Labs amp will power the fronts. Thanks for the info guys. jb
  8. J

    Center channel for Summit?

    Hiya's, what's a good center channel to match with my ML Summits? I don't see anything on the ML web site that suggests a match. anybody every use other brand center with these, like non-els speaker? jb system: ML Summit Pass Labs x250 Pass Labs X-1 Cary...
  9. J

    System #283 (Summit)

    Name: Joe Location: Great Falls, Montana ML Model(s): ML Summit Year Purchased: 2008 Mods: Original Equipment: Pass Labs x250 amp Pass Labs X1 pre-amp Cary 306/200CDP Acoustic Zen Satori shotgun speaker cables and A.Z Silver interconnects. Comments: My previous speakers were BW Nautilus 802's...
  10. J

    Too close to amp?

    so far, no problems, no hum or feedback. Looking good, think I'll post better pics in "Member Sytems" as suggested, (sorry, I'm still a newbie) But I gotta tell you, the more I listen to these, the more I love them, my BW's where pale in comparison. jb
  11. J

    Too close to amp?

    hiya, I'm a bit cramped for space unless I rearrange furniture (again). my current configuration is more user friendly but my amp is only about a foot away from my Summit. I wonder if that's too close for comfort? jb
  12. J

    bass adjustment-summit

    Hi, I've been getting acquainted with my new Summits. I've found that I can adjust the bass to improve almost every piece of music I listen to. Needless to say, this gets tiresome. I've tried to figure out a setting that seems to be the best match for my room, but it seems futile. So I've...
  13. J

    ML Summits / BW N802

    GG. I think you are righ on, the amps are very similar, with the only notable exception at higher volumes. At between lose to 100db, the 350 clearly has more "umff" and improved dynamics, but who listens that high? I certainly don't. If I had a larger room and larger speakers I might. Just...
  14. J

    ML Summits / BW N802

    Ok, After comparing the Pass Labs X350 to the X250 I'd have to say the 250 does sound a bit more dynamic and it is more than enough power for these Summits. Both are very sweet and allow the Summits to breathe and give that wonderful soundstage, imaging and clarity they are capable of. The x350...
  15. J

    ML Summits / BW N802

    No, my ears have not confirmed it, YET. I have not done the ABAB tests yet, I only experimented a couple of times on the Summits. I just got them yesterday! I DID do an AB test on the BW's and I do believe that on the BW's, with some music, the 350 seemed to give it more depth, but that was...
  16. J

    ML Summits / BW N802

    x350 or X250 Well now that I have officially fallen in love with these Summits, the only question left is, go with the 250 or the 350, I don't think I need 350watts for these. the needle doesn't even move even at 90+db. so the amp is driving them effortlessly. The 250 seems just as well, the...
  17. J

    ML Summits / BW N802

    Are you sure that's not $4200 EACH? that doesn't sound like something Definitive would do. jb
  18. J

    ML Summits / BW N802

    Well, I spent several hours today comparing the BW/ML's. the first thing I noticed, which was almost immediately, was the deep, extended bass! the next thing was the imaging, people talk about "holographic" imaging, but these puppies really do it! The clarity and musicality is just superb...
  19. J

    ML Summits / BW N802

    I just got em out of the box, whoopie, like Xmas. Man, they are beautiful!, they are the cherry red, I thought I was getting the natural wood, but I like these much better. Can't wait till tomorrow to hook em up. jb
  20. J

    ML Summits / BW N802

    X350 or 250? My Summits are supposed to be here an minute. I'm just wondering how much juice they really need. I have both a Pass Labs x250 and a X350. I've tried them both on my BW's and they are pretty equally matched, sometimes the 250 seems a bit more refined but the 350 handles any...
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