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    Preamp & Amp or Intergrated for Ethos

    There are many tube integrated's that will drive Martin Logan's, especially the easier to drive varieties of today. I'm driving a pair of ESL's with a 6 watt KT88 SET amp and preamp combo made by Dennis Had, now retired, from CARY audio fame. Since retiring from Cary, Dennis has been building...
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    Why does the Martin Logan Sounce NOT sound like an electrostat?

    Yep Kach, you nailed it big timers. It's a night and day difference since I initiated the thread. I've a set of ML adjustable spikes from my previous Summit's. They were like $200 a set of 8 if I recall correctly. I'll have to check to see if the threads match. Even without spikes beneath the...
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    Why does the Martin Logan Sounce NOT sound like an electrostat?

    I'd sure like to learn more about that. This pair came without spikes. Just out of curiosity I tilted my previous CLSiiZ's mounted on Arcici stands and to my delight I much preferred them tilted towards my ears than the stock setup for them. The sonic comparison wasn't even close.
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    Why does the Martin Logan Sounce NOT sound like an electrostat?

    Well, after further investigation I've found this was a brand new UNUSED floor demo pair that didn't get used. What a difference 10 days of use makes! I'm happy to report that there's been a very noticeable improvement with the Sources and they're now producing the ML sound I'm so familiar...
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    Vantage came in damaged.. Is this repairable cheaply?

    Don't screw around trying to determine if the speaker works. FACT IS if there's evidence to the packaging the speaker was damaged in transit you need to get off the forum and inform the seller who shipped the item to file a damage claim. IMMEDIATELY. You the receiver buyer did NOT ship the...
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    Why does the Martin Logan Sounce NOT sound like an electrostat?

    I just called ML to date the speakers. They're produced in '09, so panel age or a dirty panel isn't the issue. Unfortunately the speaker was discontinued earlier this year if I'm not mistaken so no retailer has a pair of these on the floor to hear. I acquired these from a former ML retailer...
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    Why does the Martin Logan Sounce NOT sound like an electrostat?

    Hola. These aren't like removing the rails on a pair of SL3's and BAM you're free to remove the panel and head for the shower. Besides, a speaker this new doesn't need a shower. They're new, for they were only displayed in an office environment and virtually unplayed. I've not check the serial...
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    Why does the Martin Logan Sounce NOT sound like an electrostat?

    I've owned both new and used. What's the point of that ? for even USED panels still project like a Martin Logan. The source didn't come about until 2007 so how used could the panels be. A cymbal via a ML still has that signature sizzle you don't find any ANY other speaker does it not? This...
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    Why does the Martin Logan Sounce NOT sound like an electrostat?

    Why does the Martin Logan Source NOT sound like an electrostat? Over the past 15 years I've owned: ML Vantage, Vista, Monolith, Request, Quest Z's, SL3's, Aerius I's, and 3 different pairs of CLSiiz's. It's fair to say I've some idea what to expect from a ML speaker or in the very least am...
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    Connecting two 8008BB to a SL3; is it worth it ?

    By yourself a BAT preamp...AG is full of them! I've owned BAT for 15 years and swear buy them. 2b
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    Connecting two 8008BB to a SL3; is it worth it ?

    according to the ML manual that came with your SL3's it's always best to biamp a hybrid speaker for the woofers rob a single amp of so much power. IMHO, I've always achieved superior results by biamping a ML hybrid. If you can afford it by all means go for it. I've seen used 8008BB's as low as...
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    Dilemma with Ascents, Vantages, and Tubes

    You've not heard your logan's until you've heard your logan's powered by glass. Having recently moved away from SS amps entirely I'm now a proponent of glass. But in the very least if you're powering a hybrid ML use a tube amp up top...this is common knowledge that goes back at least 20 years...
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    ML historical jpeg request pleeezzz?

    Hey all, I'm assembling a historical photo montage of sorts of the ML product line. For us old timer's, remember that great sample board that ML used as a promo during the 80's and early 90's that was a sample board of wood finishes one could order? If memory serves me correctly it had a...
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    New Electromotions or used Vistas?

    I've acquired used ML's for over 20 years and in that time I've only acquired one new product, a pair of Vista's. Don't let the naysayers persuade you against used goods. The reality is the prices of used Vista's and Vantages have fallen off the planet over the past year. A pair of Vantages sold...
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