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FWIW ... stats on the new Motion speakers are up on the ML website

My system is Voyrage, Passage, Helos 100's for rear, and a Grotto. I am loving life.

I recently had a system installed, consisting of: Voyage, left and right. Passage center Helos 100's for the rear. Grotto for sub I am flat loving the system. New home, and the room isn't fully decorated yet and as of now remains very "bright". But it is easy to appreciate just how good the...

Electronics have been dominated by Asia for so long I don't think anyone cares where stuff is made any more. What they care about is whether the product is any good. So in my opinion, the slogan comes off as cheesy.

With my system now installed, this old thread came to mind, especially given the "dealer rant" topic. My system is inwalls. The thing about service with freestanding speakers is you are basically hearing a demo, then ordering a box. The dealer support you need is really pretty limited. Maybe...

Interesting. Let me pose a business model to you, and since have been from here to there in your experience, I'd be interested in your thoughts. There are companies that will rent you an expensive camera lens. Rent it for a week or whatever, take it on vacation, return it. At the end of the...

Thanks. As per my other post, I now have it covered. For what it's worth, the room most important to me FIRST, can't use floor standing speakers properly. Knew I had to go inwall. Liked the ML sound. It was hard finding product to hear. Started out considering frescoes. Ended up with...

Funny you should say that. I did write the big check in Wilmington.

Non-philes become philes one upgrade at a time. The market for $10k speakers will always be thin. The country can't support many of them. They can only survive in locations where there is a pool of buyers at that level. Potential buyers in other spots will just have to travel.

I hear you. Maybe on Long Island there are a lot of dealer choices. Not so elsewhere. You are never going to change the desire for people to want stuff as cheap as they can manage it. It's business, not charity. And the net is here to stay, and asking people to ignore it out of charity to a...

Interesting discussion about dealers, manufacturer sales & market, and the buying habits of the customer. A few thoughts of my own. I am in the final stages of having a home built. Complete with a lot of wiring, gear, and speakers. I did a lot of very painful shopping. It was painful...

Anyone else as astonished and irritated that, in an era of cheap and efficient hard drive data storage, decades after the conversion to digital music sources ... ... that easy to use and install, and inexpensive, digital media servers are virtually non-existent? Every music message board has...

I can't speak to the Mosaic. I have not heard them. Since they are not shown on the ML product site, are they even offered at this time? As far as the Frescoe goes, I have heard them and like them, when coupled with a sub. I almost went for 3 frescoes on the front, with a pair of Vignettes...

Wow, Shawn that is great info. Many thanks for that advice. As I think I mentioned, I have not been able to hear a Helos so have been flying blind on that option. I have heard the Voyage, and was impressed. I have heard the Passage in less than optimal conditions, and it struck me as being a...

I have not been able to listen to a Helos, but it is hard for me to picture an in-ceiling speaker aimed mostly down but angled a few degrees toward a listening area, as being better than an inwall sized many times the size of the ceiling speaker, aimed mostly out toward the listening area with a...

Everything is a tradeoff of course. Dimensions come into play. The front wall has a fireplace in the center, with the TV to be mounted over it. To the left is a built-in bookcase, with the left to be mounted above. To the right is a doorway, with the speaker to be mounted above. The entire...

I am building a new house, and have searched high and low for the best option for inwall or onwall speakers. I have listened to as many as I can find. Following is my selection. Voyages for L&R Passage for center Tickets for rears. All to be mounted horizontally. A difficulty in the room is...

Frescoes are among the speakers I've been considering. How do you like them?

http://www.bgcorp.com/

It dawns on me that ML appears to be buying it's tweeters and midranges used in it's inwall speakers from BG. Can anyone comment on "the rest of the story" regarding speakers from the two companies? Reasons to go toward ML vs BG? There seems to be little published on the web about BG. No...