Tweeter has the Toshiba HiDef DVD online

[Reverb2009]

Do you know if these will support DVD-A and SACD also?

I don’t think Toshiba's HD-DVD does, Pioneers Blu-Ray player does not support either at this time, they said there first Hi-Def player will be bare bones, later players should support SACD's and DVD-audio. Sony's player may have SACD when it ships some time in June.

At this time the current chipset for Hi-Def DVD is basically a bare bones set-up, future chipsets should have support for SACD and DVD-Audio.

 

[Robin]

Down-Converting Hi-Def restrictions...

I don’t think Toshiba's HD-DVD does, Pioneers Blu-Ray player does not support either at this time, they said there first Hi-Def player will be bare bones, later players should support SACD's and DVD-audio. Sony's player may have SACD when it ships some time in June.

At this time the current chipset for Hi-Def DVD is basically a bare bones set-up, future chipsets should have support for SACD and DVD-Audio.

Joe,

It seems the movie studios are trying to avoid any analog connections, because they are afraid of image piracy. I guess the consortium of companies interested in protecting copy rights of their source material is the motivation. I was reading this article which shows interesting developments still brewing on the Hi-Def horizon...

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6300812.html

I hope this controversy does not diminish the high quality of resolution we are hoping from Blue-Ray players or Blue-Ray Disc's? I trust the consortium doesn't plan to ruin Blue-Ray in the name of copy right protection... What do you think about this new development, Joe?

 

[Reverb2009]

Joe,

It seems the movie studios are trying to avoid any analog connections, because they are afraid of image piracy. I guess the consortium of companies interested in protecting copy rights of their source material is the motivation. I was reading this article which shows interesting developments still brewing on the Hi-Def horizon...

DVD has it's own protection agent piracy, but it only look a few months for the hackers to crack it, and let the boot legging begin. The movie industry would like to put an end to that and stop the boot legging. This would be there second chance to do so.

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6300812.html

I hope this controversy does not diminish the high quality of resolution we are hoping from Blue-Ray players or Blue-Ray Disc's? I trust the consortium doesn't plan to ruin Blue-Ray in the name of copy right protection... What do you think about this new development, Joe?

I don’t think it will. Were talking about the ability to copy a movie, not play it back. The way thing appear to be going right now, you can not send a hi-def video single over component video unless the studio gives you the rights to do so on the disk. If the copy protection is enabled on the disk you cannot send a hi-def single over an analog connection.

 

[Robin]

Boot Legging Blue-Ray...

DVD has it's own protection agent piracy, but it only look a few months for the hackers to crack it, and let the boot legging begin. The movie industry would like to put an end to that and stop the boot legging. This would be there second chance to do so.
I don’t think it will. Were talking about the ability to copy a movie, not play it back. The way thing appear to be going right now, you can not send a hi-def video single over component video unless the studio gives you the rights to do so on the disk. If the copy protection is enabled on the disk you cannot send a hi-def single over an analog connection.

Joe,

I think you are quite correct, the film studios are just trying to protect their product, not ruin it... It'll be interesting to see what the finial Blue-Ray players / recorders will eventually look like in the spring, as it sounds like the electronic companies and the film studios are still making last minute changes before Blue-Ray reaches the US market.

 

[68sting]

Let me get this straight. The HD players won't work through component jacks? I would have to have a DVI or HDMI connection?

 

[Reverb2009]

Let me get this straight. The HD players won't work through component jacks? I would have to have a DVI or HDMI connection?

Yes and NO,

The Hi-Def player will output standard 480i/p DVD video over component, and will even up convert it to 720p or 1080i/p. I believe you can down convert the HD video to 480p and send it over component.

But Hi definition HD-DVD/Blu-Ray video can only be sent over component if the studio chooses not to us the HDCP (High Definition Copy Protection), if the studio enables HDCP on the disk then the video can only be sent over HDMI to a receiver with HDMI spec. 1.1 or higher or a TV with DVI/HDMI that is HDCP compliant.

Hope this helps.

 

[SteveInNC]

To further complicate the issue (read: screw us over), the media industry is trying to get the US Congress to pass a law to block the so-called "analog hole". The proposed legislation would make it illegal to produce or import any device capable of converting analog into a digital video signal unless it responds to a copy protection code embedded in the analog signal. Note, stripping the code wouldn't probably work either (ala Macrovision) because compatible devices will likely require an "OK to copy" code, rather than an absence of any code. Given some of the crap laws that Congress has passed, this one wouldn't surprise me either.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051218-5797.html

Note that this would cover all kinds of things like video input cards, DV camcorders, and other stuff.

There is also a bill sponsored by the media companies to change the Fair Use doctrine to become something called the "customary historic use".

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060121-6025.html

 

[Reverb2009]

Robin,

The AVSfourm started a new feature late last year with there AVSforun radio show. It’s actually very good, with lot of info and helpful tips. But the reason why I am posting this is because they did a show from CES'06 and had there impressions about Dolby Plus and DTS-HD that thought you might enjoy. The shows runs about 25 minuets long, so give your self some time to kick back and listen to it.

Here is the CES show link.
Jan,10
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=629222

Jan,13
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=630671



Link to the AVS radio show main page.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=138

 

[Robin]

Excellent...

Robin,

The AVSfourm started a new feature late last year with there AVSforun radio show. It’s actually very good, with lot of info and helpful tips. But the reason why I am posting this is because they did a show from CES'06 and had there impressions about Dolby Plus and DTS-HD that thought you might enjoy. The shows runs about 25 minuets long, so give your self some time to kick back and listen to it.

Here is the CES show link.
Jan,10
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=629222

Jan,13
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=630671



Link to the AVS radio show main page.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=138

Joe,

Thank you very much for the links to learn more visa vee the AVS Radio show. I will definately check out the radio program. Cool information and excellent advise, Joe...

Thanks again,