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I have a question. I have a small ML 700X sub in a small to medium size room. I'm amazed that once I started getting my speakers Eq'ed to flatten out the room spikes (two big ones) I then had to turn down the sub from 50% to now I have the volume on the sub at about 15%. To me that is almost nothing on the knob. But anymore and I have too much sub. I found that once you get your set up room nodes fixed fairly well, not only does the sound improve tremendously, but the the low level listening volume is much better and I don't need the sub cranked up to match the huge two room spikes I had. As usual, the single biggest and best tweaks I have made to my setup is speaker toe in/placement and leveling out the room spikes. Huge improvement over the entire sound experience. I followed Ttocs, JonFo and others on here who have dialed in their systems very well in my $2 way. For my inexpensive setup, it really seems to sound way, way above its price point. It is true (as usual) that setup is over 50% of the sound quality. The sub being turned down a lot was unexpected on my part. Anyone else find anything totally unexpected when setting up their system? Inquiring minds want to know. Plus we might get an interesting discussion going. Who knows? :)
 

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I also dial my sub in by ear and for me, it always seems to be a "pinch". It was like that for the SL3 and now the same for the CLSII.
 

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You've followed the process correctly. Optimize the speaker locations first and then add the sub. Don't worry about your initial expectations. If the current sub settings provide the correct amount of "bass reinforcement" without impacting midrange / top end clarity and blend so you can't locate the subwoofer sound, you got it right. Unfortunately, many folks want to "hear" the sub resulting in overblown bass and compromising the SQ of their system.
 

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I can never tell that I have a sub. I had to check both of my mains to make sure they were not putting out sub frequencies. It is amazing how well the ESLs blend with a sub. I have cut a lot of bass out of the ESLs and given it to the sub and it sounds very good. Plus when I turn it up every once in awhile it is not beating the crap out of the ESL woofer. So, bottom line I can run it extremely loud (why?) safely, but I do not ever listen at that volume as I like my hearing. If anyone thinks these speakers will not play LOUD, they are nuts. The issue I have now is that apartment living means I can't crank it up to 11 or the police will give me a talking too and then I will receive a very politely worded eviction notice. So, I listen in moderation which is where I'm happiest anyway. I want to keep my hearing!
 

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I have a question. I have a small ML 700X sub in a small to medium size room. I'm amazed that once I started getting my speakers Eq'ed to flatten out the room spikes (two big ones) I then had to turn down the sub from 50% to now I have the volume on the sub at about 15%. To me that is almost nothing on the knob. But anymore and I have too much sub. I found that once you get your set up room nodes fixed fairly well, not only does the sound improve tremendously, but the the low level listening volume is much better and I don't need the sub cranked up to match the huge two room spikes I had. As usual, the single biggest and best tweaks I have made to my setup is speaker toe in/placement and leveling out the room spikes. Huge improvement over the entire sound experience. I followed Ttocs, JonFo and others on here who have dialed in their systems very well in my $2 way. For my inexpensive setup, it really seems to sound way, way above its price point. It is true (as usual) that setup is over 50% of the sound quality. The sub being turned down a lot was unexpected on my part. Anyone else find anything totally unexpected when setting up their system? Inquiring minds want to know. Plus we might get an interesting discussion going. Who knows? :)
What are you pairing the 700X Sub with for your main speakers?
 
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