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Vic, from one fart to another, welcome aboard !
 

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Hello! I don't know why it took me so long to find MLO but glad I stumbled onto it today whilst looking for feedback about using a tube amp with M-L ESL-X speakers. I began my audiophool journey back in the 60's with (2 pairs) of (stacked ! ) Bose 301's (oh I am so ashamed !), a Sony STR-7065 receiver and a Dual 1229 turntable (how many of you remember those??). From there I stepped up to a Mark Levinson JC-2 preamp, G.A.S. Ampzilla power amp and Bose 901's Series 1's (oh, doubly ashamed !) Eventually I came to my senses, sold the 901's and bought a pair of Magneplanar MG-II's. PHEW !

Anyway, when I got married (2nd time) my good wife encouraged me to trade the Maggie's in for something more "decor" friendly. This was late 1990's and I was seriously considering a pair of Sonus-Faber stand speakers (model # lost due to old age. I'm 69 !) but my good wife # 2 encouraged my to listen to the M-L Aerius-i's. My world changed ! Kept the Aerius'-i for 20 years, then sold them to a friend and here I am now with the ESL-X. Of course I wish I'd have popped for the ESL-9's but we did a complete system upgrade (same loving, stereo friendly 2nd wife after all these years!) so it was either spend more on speakers or go to a separate preamp / amp instead of an integrated. We finally settled on a Rotel RC-1590 preamp, Rotel RB-1582MKII amp and the ESL-X speakers. Boy, once they burned in I was in heaven !

Further upgrades hence; From a Marantz UD-5007 Blu-ray to a Marantz RUBY SA-KI SACD player. MAN-OH-MAN ! Is that thing a revelation ! Also added an SVS-SB-3000 sub.

And most recently, an Audioquest Niagara 1200 power conditioner w/ Audioquest NRG-Z3 power cord, Audioquest WATER interconnects between preamp and amp and between SACD and preamp, and Audioquest Rocket 88 biamp cables between amp and speakers. Don't let anyone tell you cables don't matter. It took a while but now that they have burned-in, the Niagara 1200 and the cables took the system to another level. Power cord upgrades are next but I'm having an issue with the phono input on the Rotel preamp (to be told in another forum), so even though I don't currently have a turntable I want to see if Rotel will get it resolved. If not, changes may be in order, which is why I was searching for advice about tube amps and electrostatic speakers.

Anyway, I'd love to hear from any and everyone who feels like chatting about audio equipment.

Best regards.

VideoVic
Welcome Vic! I’m in the Chicagoland area also! Welcome to the club!
 

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Woof! Good one on the Bose!
I had those exact ones as well, man going back to senior school... had the 301 series III and then the 901's series IV with active eq. We hung those suspended from the ceiling using the Bose supplied accessories. Driven with a Carver power amp and Carver preamp, it pumped out tunes virtually 24/7... didn't miss a beat and would still play in rain, thunderstorms, tropics whatever! Bought the 901s from Spore dealer at the Adelphi, my go to place for anything audio. After Bose it was Paradigm speakers and then onto Maggie's, Quads... & finally ending with ML's.

Aaaah ...Chicago! That's where I completed my under-grad at Lewis University Romeoville IL. Small Christian Bros catholic Uni background... but I'm not catholic, rather just prefer stats!
That's where I got my name "big dog" from da hood!

Also, first experienced the ML SL3 in a highend store in Naperville. I think the name was Sound Lab... or something great chaps to deal with. I remember the day, I walked in and auditioned both the Aries and SL3's. Driven by a Krell integrated 150w amp and Krell top loading CD player. We loaded in a disc I brought along, Norman Brown - Better Days Ahead. From the moment he hit play... oh my golly! Was I transfixed! I didn't move until they closed the store and a couple bought the pair of SL3's that I was demoing. I even helped them load it into the boot of their car, and it was bloody snowing! Yet no boxes or anything just wrapped up in cloth and plastic, they drove off! I visited the store again the following month, had saved up a few dollars from Uni jobs, and went straight in and bought a new pair of SL3's and some Monster speaker cables. That was it! Funny, in one of my electives called, Interviews & Presentstion skills, I actually wrote a paper and did a presentation on ML & Bose. The ML were presented on the SL3 and the Bose 901 was presented. The lecturer thought I'd end up being a speaker tech specialist or designer...

Well enough of that said, sorry for the digress...
You just gotta love Bose for what it can do. Obviously ML is in a totally different league!
Cheers to both!
RJ
 

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Woof! Good one on the Bose!
I had those exact ones as well, man going back to senior school... had the 301 series III and then the 901's series IV with active eq. We hung those suspended from the ceiling using the Bose supplied accessories. Driven with a Carver power amp and Carver preamp, it pumped out tunes virtually 24/7... didn't miss a beat and would still play in rain, thunderstorms, tropics whatever! Bought the 901s from Spore dealer at the Adelphi, my go to place for anything audio. After Bose it was Paradigm speakers and then onto Maggie's, Quads... & finally ending with ML's.

Aaaah ...Chicago! That's where I completed my under-grad at Lewis University Romeoville IL. Small Christian Bros catholic Uni background... but I'm not catholic, rather just prefer stats!
That's where I got my name "big dog" from da hood!

Also, first experienced the ML SL3 in a highend store in Naperville. I think the name was Sound Lab... or something great chaps to deal with. I remember the day, I walked in and auditioned both the Aries and SL3's. Driven by a Krell integrated 150w amp and Krell top loading CD player. We loaded in a disc I brought along, Norman Brown - Better Days Ahead. From the moment he hit play... oh my golly! Was I transfixed! I didn't move until they closed the store and a couple bought the pair of SL3's that I was demoing. I even helped them load it into the boot of their car, and it was bloody snowing! Yet no boxes or anything just wrapped up in cloth and plastic, they drove off! I visited the store again the following month, had saved up a few dollars from Uni jobs, and went straight in and bought a new pair of SL3's and some Monster speaker cables. That was it! Funny, in one of my electives called, Interviews & Presentstion skills, I actually wrote a paper and did a presentation on ML & Bose. The ML were presented on the SL3 and the Bose 901 was presented. The lecturer thought I'd end up being a speaker tech specialist or designer...

Well enough of that said, sorry for the digress...
You just gotta love Bose for what it can do. Obviously ML is in a totally different league!
Cheers to both!
RJ
Hello, RJ. I totally remember Sound Lab stores. If memory serves they had a store in Palatine IL and that is where I bought the Aerius i's.
 

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Hello, RJ. I totally remember Sound Lab stores. If memory serves they had a store in Palatine IL and that is where I bought the Aerius i's.

I'll be damned! How interesting. Are they still in business? I ended up being one of their room acoustic setup techs, especially for panel type speakers and ML's. Man... this is going way back to 93/94! The chaps there must be all old & bald... I can't remember the guy I was dealing with but I used to visit their store on such a regular basis, so as to not annoy them anymore, I think it was their GM who offered me a small stint as room setup tech. He could see my enthusiasm from a mile away...! compltey nuts about ML stats, and from that point onwards, is what got me into the highend dealership business. I couldn't hardly study, although I finished with a 3.8GPA, must have been a fluke ha!

Enjoy those fine tunes!
Cheers mate, RJ
 

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No, RJ. Sadly Sound Lab is no more. The brick-and-mortar high-end audio retailing business is really piss poor here considering that the Chicagoland area population is in excess of 4 million people
 

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Oh! Dear me... I had a feeling that was the case. Since after I left IL in May of 98, around 99/2000 I didn't hear from them. So we never hooked up again and life went on... Yes, the highend during those years are completely different to nowadays. It's just a hard sell now and with the digital domain, everything can suddenly vanish onto an online platform. Any chap can sell highend gear from a shed, yet still profile a kick-ass website showing a multiple array of gear. With no showroom or demo room of course, and life goes on.

That's basically what happened, so I sold out and migrated! Cheers mate.
Enjoy those stats, they're just beautiful in reproducing pure music!
Woof! RJ
 

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No, RJ. Sadly Sound Lab is no more. The brick-and-mortar high-end audio retailing business is really piss poor here considering that the Chicagoland area population is in excess of 4 million people
I think it's that way all over now. The stores I use seem to be doing ok, but I feel like they do a greater and greater part of their business now setting up home theaters and sound systems in homes/businesses. The business is changing for sure.

So many folks order things online without even seeing or hearing them. I'm shocked how people order new cars online now without even driving them.
 

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Yeah mate go figure! Just the other day, one of my neighbors ordered that Chinese made SUV called Haval. It arrived on a truck, in full glorious blue! I asked him what the heck is this color matey? He replied, "brilliant sporty bluuu." Uh?
Jeez man, I wouldn't see myself driving that color even if it was a Ferrari or Lambo, it looked like a sports car from the Smurfs episode!
Then we jumped in and went for a drive, he said it's the first time he's ever driven it. Wait a minute... I asked you haven't even driven the dam thing? So, apparently, it comes with a full 90 point vehicle check (whatever that means) road worthy test & certificates, plus 5 year warranty just in case the wheels fall off during that initial test drive...!

Oh boy... what has the world come to? I guess you could even purchase a submarine on eBay.
Cheers to that!
RJ
 

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Yeah mate go figure! Just the other day, one of my neighbors ordered that Chinese made SUV called Haval. It arrived on a truck, in full glorious blue! I asked him what the heck is this color matey? He replied, "brilliant sporty bluuu." Uh?
Jeez man, I wouldn't see myself driving that color even if it was a Ferrari or Lambo, it looked like a sports car from the Smurfs episode!
Then we jumped in and went for a drive, he said it's the first time he's ever driven it. Wait a minute... I asked you haven't even driven the dam thing? So, apparently, it comes with a full 90 point vehicle check (whatever that means) road worthy test & certificates, plus 5 year warranty just in case the wheels fall off during that initial test drive...!

Oh boy... what has the world come to? I guess you could even purchase a submarine on eBay.
Cheers to that!
RJ
Yeah, that's nuts. Kinda like getting a pair of main speakers without ever hearing them.

I guess if your only goal is to get from point A to point B then it's fine. I want my car to drive a certain way and be fun to drive. I always test at least 3 cars that I've research before choosing one. The only exception was my 911 turbo. It was the only sports car I tested. I at least test drove it. It had a 3 year factory certified warranty on it, but if it hadn't driven the way I wanted it to then I would have never bought it.
 

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No, RJ. Sadly Sound Lab is no more. The brick-and-mortar high-end audio retailing business is really piss poor here considering that the Chicagoland area population is in excess of 4 million people

I was able to hear the Martin Logan Statement E2 at the Sound Lab in Palatine! A phenomenal system!
 

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Nice one mate! Can you remember what type of amplification they were using?

Back in the day, it was mostly Krells, ARC or VTL. These could drive those Statements to full effect. There'll never be another Evo-II.
Cheers RJ
Nice one mate! Can you remember what type of amplification they were using?

Back in the day, it was mostly Krells, ARC or VTL. These could drive those Statements to full effect. There'll never be another Evo-II.
Cheers RJ

I pretty sure they were powered by the Krell FPB 600 amplifiers.
 
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