What's your take on this article?
Click the link - see February 09, 2006 entry:
http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2006_02.php#004400
Click the link - see February 09, 2006 entry:
http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2006_02.php#004400
Google Copies Your Hard Drive - Government Smiles in Anticipation
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Joey_V
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Uh oh!! 
Robin
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Electronic Communications Privacy Laws really need updating...
Thanks for the very interesting article.
Well, it is very obvious to see, our current 'electronic communcation privacy laws' desperately need updating, like yesterday. I don't think I'm going to use the Google desk-top seach again anytime soon...
kach22i,kach22i said:
Thanks for the very interesting article.
Well, it is very obvious to see, our current 'electronic communcation privacy laws' desperately need updating, like yesterday. I don't think I'm going to use the Google desk-top seach again anytime soon...
Robin said:I don't think I'm going to use the Google desk-top seach again anytime soon...
the new "Search Across Computers" feature
I just went to Google, I don't see that feature anywhere.........it's not in the advanced search either. I think this is a interface program you may have to download................still reading about it myself.
I'm not a "computer guy", but the article link came to me from one.
From the first link in the article:
http://news.com.com/FAQ+When+Google+is+not+your+friend/2100-1025_3-6034666.html?tag=nl
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TheBobGoat
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i dont use the desktop search programs anyway - i just make folders and remmeber where my stuff is - otherwise do a regular windows search for the document
if its important enough to be shared over my network - i put it in the shared folder
desktop searches are a waste of ram
if its important enough to be shared over my network - i put it in the shared folder
desktop searches are a waste of ram
I did a search on Google for their own progam.
Mesaage at top of my page says: Your cookies seem to be disabled.
Setting preferences will not work until you enable cookies in your browser.
Good - I'm going to keep it that way.
If you want to redo your settings so the govenment knows you are not a threat, click below. If you do not click they will automaticly know you are a traitor, and the department of Homeland defense will take you to that camp in Cuba which Rumsfeld said is just like any other Caribbean resort - you should be so lucky.
From Google - the "Don't be Evil" company.
http://desktop.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=32889&topic=1420
Mesaage at top of my page says: Your cookies seem to be disabled.
Setting preferences will not work until you enable cookies in your browser.
Good - I'm going to keep it that way.
If you want to redo your settings so the govenment knows you are not a threat, click below. If you do not click they will automaticly know you are a traitor, and the department of Homeland defense will take you to that camp in Cuba which Rumsfeld said is just like any other Caribbean resort - you should be so lucky.
From Google - the "Don't be Evil" company.
http://desktop.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=32889&topic=1420
socialxray
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Ok before we start heaping all of the blame on Google let's just sit back and notice that this may be a feature that some people may find useful. What is needed is more information so that a consumer can make an educated decision.
In all actuality we keep informaton about ourselves spread all across the web. My email is on a Yahoo server somewhere. When I delete that email does Yahoo erase it from that server's hard drives? Honestly I don't know. There is a lot of information about me on this very forum. Could it possibly be used against me? Yeah.
Google collects and keeps ALL of the information it receives because it is legal to do so. And I highly doubt that they are alone. What we need to do is contact our Congressman or Representative and express our concerns about our privacy on the Internet. Email Google too.
At the very least Google should disclose these facts so that consumers understand how their choices will affect them.
Please remember that Google is the ONLY search engine that refused to give in to the government and release information regarding searches that you or I may have done. All the other search engines gave the government what they wanted without a fight. Google is going to court. That has to be commended.
In all actuality we keep informaton about ourselves spread all across the web. My email is on a Yahoo server somewhere. When I delete that email does Yahoo erase it from that server's hard drives? Honestly I don't know. There is a lot of information about me on this very forum. Could it possibly be used against me? Yeah.
Google collects and keeps ALL of the information it receives because it is legal to do so. And I highly doubt that they are alone. What we need to do is contact our Congressman or Representative and express our concerns about our privacy on the Internet. Email Google too.
At the very least Google should disclose these facts so that consumers understand how their choices will affect them.
Please remember that Google is the ONLY search engine that refused to give in to the government and release information regarding searches that you or I may have done. All the other search engines gave the government what they wanted without a fight. Google is going to court. That has to be commended.
socialxray
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Actually the second EFF article is of interest as well since it involves the erosion of our fair use rights. (My prediction: in 2 years all CDs will no longer be ripable. I think that is going to have a costly and enormous negative affect on music lovers everywhere even if you do not current store your CDs on a hard drive.)
Anyways keeping with this thread. Here is a law we need to get behind that addresses this very issue. It is not perfect but maybe it is a start.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060210-6158.html
Anyways keeping with this thread. Here is a law we need to get behind that addresses this very issue. It is not perfect but maybe it is a start.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060210-6158.html
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SugarMedia
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Well, I'm not worried about my collection of Midget Porn being discovered, I use Safari's browser.
The lastest version enables you to choose, 'Private browsing' which makes webpages not add to the history, items are automatically removed from the Downloads window, information isn't saved for AutoFill (including names and passwords), and searches are not added to the pop-up menu in the Google search box.
The lastest version enables you to choose, 'Private browsing' which makes webpages not add to the history, items are automatically removed from the Downloads window, information isn't saved for AutoFill (including names and passwords), and searches are not added to the pop-up menu in the Google search box.
LaserMark4
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Is Safari a MAC based browser only? Any comparable PC browsers that have private browsing and are comparable?SugarMedia said:
SugarMedia
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LaserMark4 said:
LaserMark, Yes, Safari is a Mac based browser. I believe something comparable for Windows would be this: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.4/mozilla-win32-1.4-installer.exe
good luck.
socialxray
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I use Firefox and it is a great browser. While it does not have a one click privacy mode, this can easily be set up that way plus it will delete your personal data from its cookies when you exit the program.
The browser is beside the point though. Just remember when you pass information to many websites, that information is retained.
The browser is beside the point though. Just remember when you pass information to many websites, that information is retained.
socialxray said:
Some people suspect that the US govenment's endorsement of the Firefox browser is because Firefox has allowed backdoor access to the Department of Homeland Security. So I guess it comes down to: Do you trust your government?
Why does the government really endorse firefox? Because of handicap accessiblity? My wife has designed fully accessible websites, thrust me, that can not be the reason.
From Firefox:
http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/
SugarMedia
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Here's sth for the super paranoid. You know who you are...and we know where you live. Mu-ha-ha-haaa
http://proxify.com/
http://proxify.com/
socialxray
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Do you think that Microsoft doesn't have a back door with George Bush's and Dick Chaney's name on it to ALL of their applications?? Hahahahaha! Puh-leez!!
Oh wait! Microsoft IS the government!!!!
Oh wait! Microsoft IS the government!!!!
Robin
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Information Control...
I am always concerned about privacy and the loss of my personal identity, as I'm sure we all are. Having said that, and "Midget Porn" aside, there is still a need to hop on board the communication super highway to keep-up on all that is going on in the world.
The Internet has become necessary to modern communication and information, which is astounding to me.
So, when I say the only one that "Really Knows Me", is Microsoft's Bill Gates, you'll know what I mean...
SugarMedia,SugarMedia said:Here's sth for the super paranoid. You know who you are...and we know where you live. Mu-ha-ha-haaa
http://proxify.com/
I am always concerned about privacy and the loss of my personal identity, as I'm sure we all are. Having said that, and "Midget Porn" aside, there is still a need to hop on board the communication super highway to keep-up on all that is going on in the world.
The Internet has become necessary to modern communication and information, which is astounding to me.
So, when I say the only one that "Really Knows Me", is Microsoft's Bill Gates, you'll know what I mean...
Microsoft does not capture data. The only time they gather any type of data is when it verifies the presence of their software and to what level. This data is not kept in vaults as someone would presume. They are too large and do not need your data. Microsoft has many other issues to deal with than to gather a single user's data.
There are many other ways to get your data and as a network admin I can gather more than you would be aware of at any time.
Jeff
There are many other ways to get your data and as a network admin I can gather more than you would be aware of at any time.
Jeff
