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- Mar 4, 2021
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- Santa Ana, California
Roger that. Duly noted.
I've concluded containing myself is the right thing to do, for the most part. You're not going to convince any true believers in magic cables that they're deluded, even though, in my opinion, they are. I see it as saving myself boatloads of money. I like the way my music on my system sounds, for the most part, and am willing to take the risk that I'm missing out on something. In the end, people spend money on what gives them pleasure, and I'm not about to tell anyone what should give them pleasure, if it's not harming anyone else.Sorry, but while I really try contain myself when discussions of cables come up, I simply cannot "listen" to stuff about things like USB cables affecting audio quality.
USB Error detection
CRC (Cyclic Redundancy Checksums)
DAC input buffers
Tell you what - take the money you would spend on Snake-Oil USB cables, and spend it on a charity in your area. Make you AND a bunch of other people feel better.
Sorry, MS, but there is no science-based or subjective test that can convince anyone that anything beyond a USB 2.0 (or 3.0 or...) compliant cable does ANYTHING to signal quality. If you have a cable that sucks enough, you will hear something similar to skipping on CDs... the signal is dropping packets of information and is not able to recover. If that happens, simply remove the old cable, chop it into pieces, and replace it with an Amazon Basics cable (or similar). I "know" that when I change the oil in my car by myself it DEFINITELY runs better/smoother/faster... I think this is the same.
I'm not disputing Schitt may make great gear at a fair price (though I haen't seen or heard any). I understand one of its founders is Mike Moffat, who is a highly regarded designer of some of the best early digital gear. And I'm not at all averse to shiny objects. I just think Moffat's choice of tweaking people (especially unsympathetic significant others) with something that looks like a taboo word is a questionable business choice. Also, where the OP is concerned, if his spending on his hobby is a source of domestic strife, a cost/benefit analysis might be in order. Some of the benefits are highly hyped by audio magazines.Schiit makes great gear for reasonable prices so I wouldn't be so fast to dismiss them, but we all know audiophiles get all hot and bothered by shiny boxes and big words posted in stereophile articles so I'm not really surprised so many people don't give it a second thought.
I just picked up the Parasound A31 for my LCR.ej time to quit playing around and get yourself a couple real amps. I am of the mindest work backwards from the speakers component wise and then go back forward to the speakers cable wise. M1200s will make everything better
As Jeff stated, ability to hear or not hear an audible difference in audio systems is substantially dependant on your system's transparency. Many anti cable folks
.......... To do so is arrogant and pretentious.
Bad choice of words on my part. My apologies.It is also arrogant and pretentious to insinuate that someone's system "is not revealing enough" if they don't hear a difference.
Where? By whom? Please provide examples and proof.Audioquest has been caught rigging cable demos.
Agree with Gordon 100%, the only thing I'd change is I'd stick in "to me" after "clearly sounded better." Appreciation of music reproduction is almost entirely subjective, and component (I include cabling) changes can be difficult or impossible to quantify. I've tried different cables and preferred them because they sounded "more relaxed" than the old stuff. I've tried things that made things sound "more coherent." To me the ultimate barometer on a component change is does it make me less aware that I'm listening to electronics and lets me just dig the music. If it does, I'm keeping it. If someone else disagrees, questions my sanity, etc. I'm perfectly fine with that. And I'm still keeping the new kit.As Jeff stated, ability to hear or not hear an audible difference in audio systems is substantially dependant on your system's transparency. Many anti cable folks seem to forget that or don't want to acknowledge that basic fact.
Regarding cables. My nephew sent me an iFi Zen Blue DacV2 to try. I used the dac in my CDP and hooked up the coax and optical cable to the unit so I could do an A B comparison. The $7 optic clearly sounded better than the $100 DH Labs coax. Go figure.
So the answer to the OP's question is that it depends on many factors and I would highly recommend an in home audition with a return / full refund option. Many purchase options in the e retail market.
And no should one should ever tell or judge any listener on what that listener can and cannot hear regarding cable differences, etc. To do so is arrogant and pretentious.
"to me" after "clearly sounded better."
And no response to Post No. 29? Why?
I heard about it a long time ago and forgot the sources. But you can Google it just as well as I can:Where? By whom? Please provide examples and proof.
We can certainly agree to disagree. FWIW, I have always trusted my ears. When I audition new gear and do an A B comparison, I will perform several times to avoid expectation bias. It took me two months to decide between my Cary 306 SACD CDP and the Luxman d06u. I have little interest in the tech behind it.
Question. Assuming you have or want to upgrade a piece of gear and absent of listening / not trusting your hearing, how do you decide if you buy or not?
Oh, so that's "the thing"? Congrats. IMO providing problematic speakers with power amps equal to them is at least an order of magnitude greater difference than DACs. And anyone with any sort of ML electostatics or ESL hybrids and suitable amps behind them has all the resolution they need. It's not an issue.I just picked up the Parasound A31 for my LCR.
Yea that's "the thing!" Mannnnnnnn you literally took the thoughts right out of my head. IMHO the stats paired with the A31 is truly magical...and it's (the amp) not even broken in yet. So I was thinking...REALLY??? Adding a DAC will make my system sound even better??? IDK!!! Parasound recommends 150hrs burn-in...I've been running it 2 days and I can't stop drooling.Oh, so that's "the thing"? Congrats. IMO providing problematic speakers with power amps equal to them is at least an order of magnitude greater difference than DACs. And anyone with any sort of ML electostatics or ESL hybrids and suitable amps behind them has all the resolution they need. It's not an issue.
High resolution is useful for resolving inner voices in polyphonic music, or subtle nuances in phrasing. If that's what makes your leg shake go for it! It certainly floats my boat. It's of questionable use in resolving differences between digital cables, particularly nonexistent ones.
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