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    ML Summits to replace Quad ESL63? v SL3?

    Thanks for detailed advice, very helpful but unfortunately the Summit X and beyond is far beyond my budget. In the end I took a punt on some significantly cheaper Vantages, hoping they will provide good competition for (or even replace) the incumbent Quad ESL63 + subwoofer. Will report back...
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    ML Summits to replace Quad ESL63? v SL3?

    Anyone have experience, thoughts?
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    ML Summits to replace Quad ESL63? v SL3?

    As a former, very happy SL3 owner that migrated to Quad ESL63 (plus subwoofer) I have always wondered about ML Summits being next natural step up. I have a small room (fine with SL3), a nice VTL ST150 valve amp and listen to a broad range of music. Any thoughts on relative merits if the Summits...
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    Faulty CLS IIZ 20th Anniversary - buy or avoid?

    thanks for reply spkrdctr i don’t mind spending a bit of time, money and effort if overall cost is less than buying a good condition used pair - but used CLS in the uk are ultra rare and these ones are local. Given the fault description, I was naively hoping removing the panels, a thorough wash...
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    Faulty CLS IIZ 20th Anniversary - buy or avoid?

    hi folks, looking for some advice. Opportunity possibly knocks to buy a pair of these lovely speakers, but they are sold as seen and one speaker is faulty. it is described by seller as ‘one of the speakers is producing a static noise in the top right hand side’ I would not be able to afford new...
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    CLS Panel version? upgrade on Quad ESL63!?

    Thanks Rah, I wont have chance to demo (thanks COVID :-<) but seller is a reputable HIFI enthusiast and tells me that the only work done was 'some diodes were replaced' and everything else is original and well looked after. How do I know power modules match? Assuming panels are original do I...
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    CLS Panel version? upgrade on Quad ESL63!?

    looking for some expert views from the forum I have always hankered after a full range CLS and now a CLS1 has come up. Question I have is what panel is fitted? see pic) It doesn’t look the same as martin logan website - maybe panel has been replaced at some point? My 2nd question is, will the...
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    Audio Research VT60 good match for SL3 Panels?

    missed out on the AR VT60 :-< On using the two amps, they don't have the same gain, but I can adjust volume on both so I balance the 2 amps at normal listening volume and then only adjust volume of the source(s) afterwards. Its not perfect but works really well for me.
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    Audio Research VT60 good match for SL3 Panels?

    hi all ML experts! I have the chance of a vintage ARC VT60 power amp (50-60 Watts, 6550 Valves) to power the panels on my ML SL3's (bass is handled separately via SS amp) I currently have a Kora Jupiter Power Amp (40-50W and EL84 tubes) which works pretty well in my small room at moderate...
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    EAR Yoshino 834T Hybrid Integrated + SL3

    no, that’s the issue - not much online to reference so hoping someone here has some direct experience
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    EAR Yoshino 834T Hybrid Integrated + SL3

    Any thoughts on E.A.R. 834T hybrid integrated ? Thinking of trying one out on my martin logan panels (bi-amped - 834T would be feeding panel only) As a fan of tubes, hoping it might be best of both worlds on a fairly demanding low impedance load There is a review that gave a glowing...
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    CLS IIz 20th Anniversary better than my SL3 in small room?

    Thanks Brad, my upstream kit is of high quality so no worries that way. I found a system post from ngarsch but contents had been deleted.
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    CLS IIz 20th Anniversary better than my SL3 in small room?

    looking for your expert advice. I have a pair of nice SL3 in my small, rectangular dedicated listening room (2.3m/9’ by 4.6m/18’) The SL3 work really well back 1m from at narrow end of room, only 4” from sides with a sub taking care of <80hz duties. Listening positionis basically at apex of near...
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    SL3 upgrade to Prodigy worth it?

    Thanks gary and timm, Interesting you mention the odyssey's those can occasionally be had around £500 more than the SL3 value and over £1k less than the prodigies? Would the odysseys be almost as good a step up. PS Prodigies as rears!!! I am sooooo jealous.
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    SL3 upgrade to Prodigy worth it?

    Can i ask the question slightly differently. Are the panels on the newer mid range or smaller models altogether better than both the SL3 gen1 and Prodigy gen2 panels?
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