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    Listening observations...

    Gordon; I checked out the pics of your room with polished wood floors and all that glass. My first thought was "bright and echoey." I'm sure it is just the opposite though just as my room looks deceiving. The only complaint I have in my room is the occasional high frequency ringing and I'm...
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    Listening observations...

    Hello Gordon. I turned the room around and placed the Source's on the short wall. At first I heard an opening of the sound while playing with placement and seating position. I then noticed an even thinner sound than before with very poor bass. No matter where I placed the speakers I could not...
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    Listening observations...

    Well I exchanged the bad speaker and hooked up the new one. The sound seems much better with a short listen. As I was listening; I noticed the new speaker had no blue power light. I pulled the woofer grill and the LED was lit. Somebody screwed up and drilled the LED hole a good 1/2" lower then...
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    Listening observations...

    Update I added quite a bit of toe and the sound really came together. It's more toe than Martin Logan recommends with the flashlight method. Now when I move my seating position away from the wall behind me; I can hear the difference. With my head about 2-1/2" from the rear wall; everything...
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    Listening observations...

    Suppose I place the speakers on this wall? Would the wood blinds act as diffusion between the speakers?
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    Listening observations...

    I'm currently listening with my seating position around 36" into the room and have played with various seating positions up to this point. While the sound is a bit more intimate; it hasn't improved to any appreciable amount. I have considered moving the speakers to the short wall as I had good...
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    Listening observations...

    Thanks for the great reply; Gordon. This gives me a game plan and I look forward to experimenting. These speakers seem to go against all my previous experiences. For instance; I would think more toe-in would make the sweet spot even narrower? I shall find out. I've been waiting for someone to...
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    Listening observations...

    Thank you very much. The room actually doesn't echo like you'd think. I only get a slight PA sound from certain HD programming through satellite tv. On the subject of absorption behind the speakers; what do you mean by "focal point?" Also; why space the absorbing panels 2" from the wall? Is...
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    Listening observations...

    I just realized that the very first pic I posted on the first page shows the camera flash reflection on the speakers. It shows the toe-in angle just like the flashlight method. :D
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    Listening observations...

    more pics Here's a few more.
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    Listening observations...

    Room pics Here's a few pics to give you an idea...
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    Listening observations...

    Thanks for the measurements. This gives me a much better idea of where to start with room position. I currently am not happy with the bass output of the Source speakers at 31" from the wall. If I pull the speakers out further into the room; it seems likely that I will lose more bass. I don't get...
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    Listening observations...

    I do listen with an absorptive panel laying horizontally behind my head. I also have experienced the high frequency ringing. Both my seating position and the speakers sit along the 20' wall and not the 14' wall. I prefer my rooms on the livelier side but am up for trying anything. I've had fully...
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    Listening observations...

    I've never been a big believer in long breakins. I truley believe that our ears/brains just become accustomed to the sound over time. Even ML states only 72 hours for breakin? The woofer and suspension mainly need any length of breakin.
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    Listening observations...

    Thanks for the detailed reply. I am running a sub crossed over at 50hz. I am contemplating moving the speakers closer together. It has worked in the past with conventional speakers. Maybe it's time to return to tube amps?
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    Listening observations...

    I'm actually not new to ML's. I've owned the Vistas in the past along with Acoustats and Apogees. I have conducted a lot of research but am curious if the Source speakers had their own unique sound characteristics. The setup is 2 channel. I'll get some pics up ASAP. Thanks.
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    Listening observations...

    I've been listening to my new Source speakers and have noticed a couple of things. I've mostly listened to box speakers so it may explain what I'm hearing. I've noticed that the vocals on many of my cd's now sound very thin. For example; Chris Isaac has always sounded chesty on my past...
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    Hello from AZ.

    Just purchased some Source speakers and having a lot of fun with them. I'm looking forward to learning more on this forum. Eric
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