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They were with the big boys in the Venetian. You went to the wrong hotel ;-) They sounded awesome with the CJ GAT's

hmmm??? The actively crossed over woofers live up to their name, "The Depth Chargers".

I have heard the Avantgarde Trios and they have a very very BIG sound. IMHO they are one of the best speakers I have heard at very low levels as well as reproducing dynamic impact. Their ability to retain detail, imaging, and bandwidth at low volumes is very very impressive. This was many years...

I agree, it can be. ...but not on all types of music :music:

Well, actually it may not even have a crossover. The configuration is suspiciously similar to a "folded" version of the Scaena or even its predecessor, the Porzilli Pipedream. Bob Carver's thing has an odd number of drivers though, 13 ribbons and 22 side firing midranges. Still it should prove...

Fwiw... I ran all three generations of Sunfire Signature amps on Logans and in my case, experimentation with each always equated to the same thing; Current Source = Coloration Voltage Source = Accuracy The Logans I had during my "Sunfire era" were Quest z's, ReQuests, and CLS 2z's. Cheers, Ray

Dammit! I'm flying to Detroit on the 7th!

Try 2 Depth's. They are lightning fast and integrate extremely well.

Hey there, I know that this post is pretty stale now, but I am not here as frequently as I used to be. I did have an ASR Mini Basis and I also had it upgraded to the Mini Basis Exclusive. I am therefore familiar with both. I actually just sold it a month ago and replaced it with a new tube unit...

After 7+ years, in my most recent experiences with the CLS 2z's I have found... that the answer to this question may very well lie with what main power amplifier you are using to drive the panels! If you look at my System (yes, I need to update it again...), you will see that I have the CLS...

Indeed, Sound Advice in Boca Raton was a friend of the South Florida Audio Society... In fact, they were able to facilitate in conjunction with Devin Zell @ ML a Group buy of the CLS 2z 20th Anniversary Editions at the "Buy One get One at Half price" sale, even though ML forbid the practice...

Is that because they don't have the signal sensing feature of later models?

I should have looked on here for a meet-up I was sent to cover the show and I pretty well got bored by Saturday afternoon... On a positive note, I was able to spend lots more time sitting in the sweet spot in rooms that sounded really good. :rocker:

So, what are the improvements you hear with this upgrade in place? .....That is, aside from the uptick in output? I'm curious if I should try this with my CLS IIz's. Also, have you happened to take a gander at the similar type of upgrade being marketed by a dude in Audiogon? I'm curious if it...

Why Valves??? In my experience with the CLS IIz and many hybrids before that, "loudness" really is not the issue. I have heard many tube amplifiers on the CLS's from VTL, BAT, ARC, CJ, and ASL. They all exhibited some amount of stress in dynamic passages. IMHO, at the end of the day the only...

Wow Justin, I must say that this is phenomenal news and I applaud Martin Logan for once again proving that they support their user base without reservation. I'm sure that this decision required quite a bit of executive buy-in and I give a whole-hearted THANK YOU to you and those in your...

The size of my analog music collection dictates that turntable playback represents at minimum 50% of my listen time and about 75% of my annual music spend. This is not likely to change until high definition downloads are mainstream and far more common than today. I still buy cd's if I really...

Sorry to burst your bubble but... The SL3 and Sequel 2 panels are definitely not interchangeable. The SL3 panel is taller and slightly narrower. This was confirmed by Jim Power, back in the day. I had Sequel 2's many years ago and opted to "upgrade" to Quest z's, and later, ReQuests.

Just to be clear.... My love affair with elecrostatics started at a very young age predating ML by a number of years. That said, I've been an ML faithful for over 20 years. My reference system is not likely to all of a sudden change just because ML decides to stop supporting us. That's just...

Well... Business cases can always be tilted to justify an end. I wonder if they ever considered making an Xstat driver that is truly backward compatible for the aging CLS models? After the development effort, chances are the parts necessary would be from the current stock bin. This is...