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For your setup, I would seriously consider any of the Logans that have the folded motion tweeter. For my setup, the Atmos speakers will be aimed at the sweet spot 5-6 feet away. Because I have acoustic treatments in my ceiling, I wound up building my own speakers for my 4 Atmos speakers. For...

Thanks, GW1800 - I'll check it out.

I've been listening to the Motion 4 speakers now for a few days. They are by far the weakest of the speakers in the system, but then again they are a fraction of the price and size of every other speaker I have. Comparing these Motion 4 speakers to the rest of the speakers in a Stereo setup...

I was able to listen to the Vanquish last night. I must say that they are the nicest ceiling speakers that I've heard. Still going with the borrow first and then buy, but Vanquish are on my list of viable options for the in ceiling Atmos speakers. Also doesn't hurt that the borrow option is...

Ken - Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm going to follow the Dolby Atmos specifications for my 7.2.4 setup. I'll start first with placing some Motion 4 speakers in the recommended location and go from there. Luckly I can borrow 4 Motion 4 speakers from a friend and get them where they...

RUR - On the Atmos setups you listened too, was there any that stood out? Any idea why they stood out?

Looks like I'm going to need to go hear the Vanquish. I've been biased against in ceiling speakers in the past. I'm not exactly sure why, but I've always had it in my head that speakers need a box. Given this application I should at least go hear the speakers. I should take some time to...

I'm not sure if they would match or not. I'm going through the Atmos speaker selection myself. I'm questioning how critical matching is for the top 4 Atmos speakers. In my current setup the 7 speakers are all matched and modes like 7 channel stereo work well. I'm not certain yet how the...

I just pulled the trigger on a Denon AVR-X7200WA. I have an existing 7.1 system with Vista, Stage X, Script and some smaller floor standing panel speakers for rear surrounds with a Sub. I have used the system with a 3808ci for a few years and been happy with the sound for home theater sound...

You might want to get ahold of the Vista seller. I've met him a few times and is a real standup guy. I happen to have his exact setup that he's getting rid of. He may be willing to help you listen to them.

Dual centers is in my future as well, all I have to wait for is the existing monster TV to die. 8 years and it still looks awesome, what's a guy to do?

I'm biwiring the vistas with a Denon 3808, the panel sound didn't change that much, but the driver really opened up in the low range.

I will likely upgrade from my SuperCube I to a high end servo based ML brand sub in the future for music. For the home theater it works great as an LFE channel, especially for $600.

I went to the Magnolia/Best Buy inside of the Mall of America on a date with my wife the other day. My wife and I did some listening between the Source and the Preface. The Preface definately had a wider dispersion and sounded more open than the Source. Compared to all the other speakers in...

I'm biamping the Vistas from a Denon 3808 reciever. The woofer came to life after the biamping. From what I've read you'll need to make sure the gain is the same or configurable so you can change the volume. Your ears may very.

In general the thicker the material the more absorbtion at the lower frequencies. The 4" material if spaced out from the wall will absorb the lower frequencies much more effectively. I started with a couple of 2" traps a couple of corner traps and a couple of 4" traps and noticed a pretty big...

I was going to try and compare the Preface against the Source and Purity, I wound up taking a gamble and buying some used Vistas. I can't speak to the Preface, but the ATF speakers I did listen too were almost as good as the ESL panel speakers. For my ears the ESL panels sounded better, so I...

We were listening to a program the other day and my 8 year old asked me why the sound was different during a paticular segment. I told her that they likely switched microphones or they just missed it during recording. I wonder if you grow up as a girl in a household with Martin Logan's in an...

Looks good, I'm going to end up somewhere between the JonFo room of coolness and these panels. I started my own project based on what is seen here, but after my wife saw the Xstatic theater, we had a design discussion. now off to do some more measurements.

Thanks all Agreed I've used the Google extensively, is there anything special I should take into cosideration with the CLS panels and the front wave? I'm guessing not.