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    My music server, and Laptop and IPad controlling the laptop is in my music room. I would like to have access to the music on the server in the living room for background listening.

    How can I accomplish this and still use my IPad to control the laptop and Synology NAC upstairs. There is ethernet access at both locations
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    The living room has no DAC capabilities at this time. I realize that would be needed in the path before it entered the prepro and then amps.
    Is there more to this that I don't understand? The company I have used to set my server system up said I would not be able to have it work this way.
    They are going to look into it a bit more and get back to me.

    Do I need another laptop in the living room with JRiver on it also then to a DAC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad225 View Post
    My music server, and Laptop and IPad controlling the laptop is in my music room. I would like to have access to the music on the server in the living room for background listening.

    How can I accomplish this and still use my IPad to control the laptop and Synology NAC upstairs. There is ethernet access at both locations
    .
    The living room has no DAC capabilities at this time. I realize that would be needed in the path before it entered the prepro and then amps.
    Is there more to this that I don't understand? The company I have used to set my server system up said I would not be able to have it work this way.
    They are going to look into it a bit more and get back to me.

    Do I need another laptop in the living room with JRiver on it also then to a DAC?

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    It's easy, but how you accomplish this depends on your setup. Eg. What software are you running? What is the laptop being used for?

    One of the great advantages of network audio is that you don't need a computer/hard disk in the listening room, so not exactly sure what you're doing here.

    But essentially - however you're playing the music - just duplicate that in the other room (eg. a UPNP streaming device) and you should be set to go. If you're playing music directly from the laptop, then all you need to do is put another laptop in the second room. But that is making things more complex than they need to be.
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    This project is to have back ground music nothing fancy or hi end in the living room. Just access to music files.


    In my listening room I have a Synology 1515D+ NAS connected > network switch > dedicated laptop running JRiver > Playback Designs USB-X clocking unit > Playback Designs MSP-5 using its DAC only > preamp and so on. The laptop is controlled by an IPad with JRiver remote.

    In the living room there is our TV/HT equipment. That is where I would like to access NAS files. It looks like I will need to use the existing network switch to send a signal to where the living room equipment is, via CAT5 wire that's existing. Probably another basic laptop with JRiver on it and a basic DAC will be needed to send an analog signal to the
    Marantz AV-7730 PrePro controlling the system. I can then use the same IPad to control the music from either the living room or listening room.

    I would prefer to stay with the JRiver format for the sake of simplicity.

    The only other thing that may complicate this is my wife would like to have a single touch screen remote that would automatically control all combinations of equipment needs. Roku>Netflix, Amazon movies, DVD movie, program on standard TV or Music to another zone without needing to have 5 remotes.
    I am fine with the 5 remotes but grumble and drink too much when I need to deal with a computer so I totally understand her feelings.

    And no, I will be hiring someone to set up and program the remote system it's cheaper than the wine bill and meds for a out of control heart rate.

    Any suggestions I would appreciate.

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    So you're playing directly from the JRiver laptop? That's a pretty rudimentary way of doing things, but I guess it works.

    The good news is with that setup, your options are pretty much limitless.

    You could do many things, including:

    Put another laptop running any DLNA/UPNP client software in the other room and connect it to JRiver
    Use an old laptop and run up Linux/UPNP client on that. If it is just for background music, use the analogue output of the laptop, or buy a cheap USB DAC like the Dragonfly
    Buy a Raspberry Pi and set up a dedicated music server like Rune or Volumio
    Use an old smartphone/tablet with UPNP client and either use the analogue output of the phone, or cast/airplay to the secondary system
    Buy a dedicated streaming device such like Bluesound or Auralic Aries mini and connect it to the central JRiver.

    The latter option is a better option for the listening room too - and put the laptop/NAS in a faraway cupboard/basement.
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    Rudimentary? Hell I thought i was living the high life. Well for me anyway. As I said Tecno-challanged.

    Another JRiver person locally that has helped me in the past suggested I switch the laptop in the music room to linux. I sent him an email today to see if the old Dell I have with Vista can be rehabbed with Linux or not. If it can't or he doesn't reply I will purchase a new cheap one.

    The Dragonfly was about as sophisticated as I was thinking.

    I am looking for the most basic setup as I can. Plus it will match the format I currently have. Less to remember.

    I did have the NAS and power back up on the floor below my listening room but the sound was clearly degraded with the extra CAT 5 wire run.

    I know all you cable doesn't matter people are crapping a brick right now. Sorry there was a big difference, even for these old ears.

    Thanks for the suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad225 View Post

    I did have the NAS and power back up on the floor below my listening room but the sound was clearly degraded with the extra CAT 5 wire run.

    I know all you cable doesn't matter people are crapping a brick right now. Sorry there was a big difference, even for these old ears.
    Sorry, but I'm confident enough to say this without qualification.

    There was NOT a difference with an extra network run. You have imagined it, so re-calibrate your ears.

    Think how many CAT-5 cable runs are between the text I'm typing here in Australia and your house in Florida. Is it degraded by the time you read it? Is it fuzzy? Has it lost resolution? Does it contain spelling errors? Are the characters out of order?

    Computer technology simply doesn't work that way. An ethernet data link is not the same as a low-level analogue phono signal.
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