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    Default Headphones ..........

    Thinking about sticking my toe into the water with respect to headphones ........... to start I'd be in the digital arena with respect to 'source' , so here's my current thinking .........

    headphone amp - Woo Audio WA-6 (Gen II)

    headphones - Sennheiser HD 650

    Ok all you headphone experts, chime in please !
     
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    Woo Audio is awesome stuff, Dave. And a fully Class A tube-driven headphone amp will sound great. But come on . . . Sennheiser? For the full effect, you just need to go all-in and get some Stax. The SR-507's are only $260 more than those Sennheisers. (And, of course, you would need to add the WEE or get a different amp that powers electrostatics, which is more $$$). For the record, though, I do own those same Sennheisers and they are a perfectly acceptable pair of headphones. But the best sound I have ever heard from headphones was from a pair of Stax with Woo Audio amp/preamp. So if I was going for Woo, I would have to go for the electrostatic setup.
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    Rich, I really want to 'dabble' into this first, thus the Sennheisers (which I have heard and thought were mighty nice for the $$).

    Another thought is to purchase the Oppo UDP-205 (headphone amp incl) and have it all ........
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    I imagine if you went with the Woo WA-6 gen. II and the Sennheisers, you would be beyond thrilled with the result. The oppo may be adequate for headphone use, but I don't think it will knock your socks off like the Woo Audio amp. If you want a truly special setup for a fairly reasonable price, go with your original idea -- the Woo amp and the Sennheisers.
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    I use headphones out of necessity. I have a variety for different purposes, such as on the train to work, in the office, etc.

    My favourite pair are my Oppo PM1 - they are closed back and great to keep noise out at the office, or when the kids are frisky at home.

    But the only pair of headphones I have heard that I would actually want to listen to are Stax.
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    Dave, why? Is this so that you don't want to disturb someone? If not, I would scrap the idea and use the money for software.....or for upgrades.

    I briefly dabbled with headphones many years ago. Lasted about a month before I sold the lot. Part of the picture is paranoia that something will go wrong and blast my eardrums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard View Post
    Dave, why? Is this so that you don't want to disturb someone? If not, I would scrap the idea and use the money for software.....or for upgrades.

    I briefly dabbled with headphones many years ago. Lasted about a month before I sold the lot. Part of the picture is paranoia that something will go wrong and blast my eardrums.
    Headphones are a necessary evil unfortunately Bernard. Emphasis on both words - necessary and evil.

    You are a very lucky man if you can listen to loudspeakers at any time, at any volume, whenever you want. Unless I lived by myself, on 5 hectares, and didn't work - that would be impossible.

    As I said earlier - Stax are the only 'phones I have found to not be in the "evil" category, however because of the design, they don't really fulfill the "necessary" part as they neither keep sound out, nor do they keep what you are listening to from propagating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard View Post
    Dave, why? Is this so that you don't want to disturb someone? If not, I would scrap the idea and use the money for software.....or for upgrades.

    I briefly dabbled with headphones many years ago. Lasted about a month before I sold the lot. Part of the picture is paranoia that something will go wrong and blast my eardrums.
    actually Bernard one of my plans is to run an extension cable to my loading bench (ammunition) so when I'm loading up a few hundred rounds of shot shells I can listen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amey01 View Post
    Headphones are a necessary evil unfortunately Bernard. Emphasis on both words - necessary and evil.

    You are a very lucky man if you can listen to loudspeakers at any time, at any volume, whenever you want. Unless I lived by myself, on 5 hectares, and didn't work - that would be impossible.
    Adam, I gave up listening to music at "audiophile levels" (i.e. LOUD) a long time ago, and, as well, I don't listen to rock at all, so don't need the bass slam. I listen to a lot of female vocals and orchestral music at comfortable levels, so can manage very well with speakers, even living in an apartment (albeit a corner one, with no people below). Even listening to Beethoven does not require the slam of rock (which I detest).

    My foray into headphones was at a time when I did have restrictions (in a house, even), but was never comfortable with the captive feeling).

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    Quote Originally Posted by twich54 View Post
    actually Bernard one of my plans is to run an extension cable to my loading bench (ammunition) so when I'm loading up a few hundred rounds of shot shells I can listen.
    Dave, aren't you supposed to concentrate on what you are doing then, rather than listening to tunes? Don't shoot yourself in the foot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard View Post
    Dave, aren't you supposed to concentrate on what you are doing then, rather than listening to tunes? Don't shoot yourself in the foot!
    LOL Bernard, my shot shell reloader is almost totally automatic, just insert empty hull, wad and push a button !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard View Post
    Adam, I gave up listening to music at "audiophile levels" (i.e. LOUD) a long time ago, and, as well, I don't listen to rock at all, so don't need the bass slam. I listen to a lot of female vocals and orchestral music at comfortable levels, so can manage very well with speakers, even living in an apartment (albeit a corner one, with no people below). Even listening to Beethoven does not require the slam of rock (which I detest).

    My foray into headphones was at a time when I did have restrictions (in a house, even), but was never comfortable with the captive feeling).
    What about others disturbing you? I listen at (as you say) "comfortable levels" too (sometimes ) ........but any household noise at all spoils my listening time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twich54 View Post
    LOL Bernard, my shot shell reloader is almost totally automatic, just insert empty hull, wad and push a button !
    Excuse my ignorance, Rambo (I know nothing about guns), but what is a shot reloader? Is it what you use to insert shells into your bandolier? What do you hunt? Hopefully you don't use a machine gun to hunt deer. Would it not be more sporting (for you, not for the deer) if you instead used a bow and arrow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amey01 View Post
    What about others disturbing you? I listen at (as you say) "comfortable levels" too (sometimes ) ........but any household noise at all spoils my listening time.
    Household noises can indeed be disturbing, but you should just forget you are an audiophile and simply relax and enjoy the music instead of listening intently for every last sound on the recording; otherwise, extraneous noises will drive you nuts.

    Of course, you should put on your audiophile hat and listen intently if you are doing something like comparing USB or power cables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard View Post
    Excuse my ignorance, Rambo (I know nothing about guns), but what is a shot reloader? Is it what you use to insert shells into your bandolier? What do you hunt? Hopefully you don't use a machine gun to hunt deer. Would it not be more sporting (for you, not for the deer) if you instead used a bow and arrow?
    Rambo ??? , LOL Bernard !

    here's a pic of my shot shell reloader.....

    https://www.mecshootingsports.com/9000e-with-auto-mate

    I reload shot shells for the use in the game of 'sporting clays', I typically shoot between 500-800 rounds per month.
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