Election: Who's the winner and when will it be called

It's not what I expected when I woke up either.

With Trump as president and a GOP majority in both houses, I expect that we will see a lot happen in a short time.

What I heard was that Trump got about as many votes as Romney did in 2012, but the Democratic voters far from having a record turn out did not show up even at levels of the 2012 election. Hillary was that unpopular with her base.

There are a lot of very frightened people around the world. Me included.

Wow! I am speechless.

Considering the growing unrest, maybe it will work out better that we rip the bandaid off now.

The GOP is now running everything. Now they are on the hot seat and have to produce. They can't blame anyone for being in their way.

The can now repeal the ACA, but now they have to find something to replace it with or they will just be the bad guys throwing millions of people off healthcare.

They will now be accountable for getting results. After being obstructionist for 8 years and doing nothing, that will be a serious challenge.

Rich said:

Wow! I am speechless.

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Haha. I will double that.

Rich said:

Wow! I am speechless.

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Wow ........now that's a first Rich !

RCHeliGuy said:

They will now be accountable for getting results. After being obstructionist for 8 years and doing nothing, that will be a serious challenge.

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Yep and lets hope they do a better job than Obama, I believe he had control in the beginning did he not ?

Perhaps Donald can now , that he's Prez elect, take a chapter or two out of Ronnie's book and start to act 'somewhat' Presidential

twich54 said:

Yep and lets hope they do a better job than Obama, I believe he had control in the beginning did he not ?

Perhaps Donald can now , that he's Prez elect, take a chapter or two out of Ronnie's book and start to act 'somewhat' Presidential

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I heard someone say that now he needs to go after Hillary. My prediction is that this is the first of many turning points for Trump. He can act presidential and magnanimous by accepting her defeat and moving on, or he can spend the next two years of GOP control of the Senate and Congress on a witch hunt wasting valuable time. If he takes the path of anger, I believe we are in for a rough 4 years, but I don't think he would get anything accomplished, the Democrats would get control of the Senate and Congress in 2 years and we would be back to a stalemate.

so Gordon, what is it ....... Mexico or Canada ?

RCHeliGuy said:

I heard someone say that now he needs to go after Hillary. My prediction is that this is the first of many turning points for Trump. He can act presidential and magnanimous by accepting her defeat and moving on, or he can spend the next two years of GOP control of the Senate and Congress on a witch hunt wasting valuable time. If he takes the path of anger, I believe we are in for a rough 4 years, but I don't think he would get anything accomplished, the Democrats would get control of the Senate and Congress in 2 years and we would be back to a stalemate.

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Should be interesting to see if the Clinton Foundation still continues to receive millions from countries and other contributors in the manner in which they have over the past several years. Will Bill still be worth over $11,000 a minute for a speech? If there was no expectations for "pay to play" there, it should continue, right? The Clinton Foundation is already being investigated, and it should continue. If she was selling access to our country while Secretary of State, I hope we find out. If it can be proven that she wasn't, we should know that as well.

twich54 said:

so Gordon, what is it ....... Mexico or Canada ?

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Prefer latter but may have to do former. And I am not joking my friend.

Travel is always good

Kevin said:

Should be interesting to see if the Clinton Foundation still continues to receive millions from countries and other contributors in the manner in which they have over the past several years. Will Bill still be worth over $11,000 a minute for a speech? If there was no expectations for "pay to play" there, it should continue, right? The Clinton Foundation is already being investigated, and it should continue. If she was selling access to our country while Secretary of State, I hope we find out. If it can be proven that she wasn't, we should know that as well.

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So Kevin,

Does the witch hunt begin / continue for her, the Foundation, illegal Mexicans, Muslims, and all the other groups DT disparaged and insulted during the campaign?

Seems to me this is the last thing people should be thinking but given the toxic environment, it's not surprising.

Hatred is a very powerful, destructive emotion.

Best,

Gordon

PS: And with all due respect, it is precisely why the vengeful rhetoric cited above drives my desire to leave the USA behind.

Well, there is no "beginning" an investigation into the foundation by the FBI, because it has been on going on now for some time. I would have to search for one of my original posts when the whole email situation first began, but I said at that time the real investigation should be about the foundation, or something like that.

If I were to be charged by the state of Virginia for some sort of fraud or crime I have committed here in my insurance business, I can guarantee you that the investigation would not cease if I were to sell my company and quit the industry. If she was operating a "pay to play" scheme through the foundation, and the FBI is currently investigating that possibility, why should it stop now?

Bill's speech compensation went way up after she became Secretary of State. The Clinton Foundation received a massive influx of donations, 'after' she become Secretary of State. I ask again, do you think that will continue, in the amounts as before, now that she and Bill might be out of politics? If it doesn't, that tells me something. It should tell anyone something.

Rich said:

Oh, I'm pretty sure once the race is definitively called, it's over. All this bluster by The Donald of challenging the result is just that: bluster. He will go out with a whimper, not a bang.

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I say with massive wry smile on face.

well one good thing I just heard is that there is a large contingent of 'Hollywood Losers' that are going to be leaving the country, some like Cher are said to be leaving the planet ..............good bye !

twich54 said:

well one good thing I just heard is that there is a large contingent of 'Hollywood Losers' that are going to be leaving the country, some like Cher are said to be leaving the planet ..............good bye !

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If it were to help them leave any sooner, I am available to help pack their things.

Interestingly legalized recreational pot spread to a number of states and medical use spread to a number of other states.

So if you don't like the results there are more places to get baked

Gordon, you may not have to move to Canada after all. Perhaps just relocating to Ca will do the trick ...............

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...wake-of-donald-trump-win/ar-AAk5RSN?li=AA5a8k

Has anyone realised that apart from the proto fascist racial rhetoric. Trump's economic agenda is texbook socialist?

Food for thought given the comments about hollywood. i.e liberal media.

Scumurculum said:

Has anyone realised that apart from the proto fascist racial rhetoric.

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WTF ?????

Trump's economic agenda is texbook socialist?

Food for thought given the comments about hollywood. i.e liberal media.

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good, we'll send them all 'down under' !