Beethoven's 5th and 9th

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Hi, can someone please recommend some good CD recordings, both PCM and SACD for these two symphonies?

I would like it both musical as well as hifi-ish (separation, soundstage and all that).

For 9 so far I like Bernstein's version with Weiner Philhamoniker (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoH_h6yxgiI) and Rafael Kubelik 1974, I think Klemperer memorial? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVqmzKPbBtI)

Which of these, or any else, have good audiophile quality in CDs?

Similarly, any recos for 5, and any recos for Frantz Listz's Piano versions of the 5th and the 9th?

Also, is the Mahler arrangement of Beethoven's symphonies good, and any recos for that? I liked the 2nd movement of the 9th which I found on youtube
 
Most of my Beethoven recordings are on LP, so I can't comment on CD quality, but I like the 1962 interpretations by Karajan. I don't like the 9th he did in the 70s. I also don't like his 1962 6th as it sounds like he's in a rush to get to his next appointment; I like Karl Böhm's 6th from the 6 or so recordings that I have.

As for piano versions, again on LP I have the 5th, 6th, and 9th, recorded by Cyprien Katsaris. They are enjoyable, but I just consider them curiosities, and have not listened to them in years.
 
I like the 5th on Piano, and also the 2nd movement of the 9th by Katsaris, they make me appreciate the symphony more
 
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