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    Tim,

    Great input. I am talking about the REF 1 "Ultimate". Is that the model you heard?

    The Carmel is an outstanding transducer and I wish you many happy hours of listening.

    One question. Do you need a sub for two channel? Sounds like they get into the high 30's.

    Also, how's the off-axis response if you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Gray View Post
    Tim,

    Great input. I am talking about the REF 1 "Ultimate". Is that the model you heard?

    The Carmel is an outstanding transducer and I wish you many happy hours of listening.

    One question. Do you need a sub for two channel? Sounds like they get into the high 30's.

    Also, how's the off-axis response if you know?

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    Yes Gordon, same product. There is a new "Founders Edition" coming out that is basically the same palette as the LS-50; gloss black with the Bronze Rose color on the Uni-Q driver and woofer cone.

    With both the Reference One as well as my Carmel's a sub isn't really required for normal listening, but if you are a fan of large scale symphonic works (the St. Saens Symphony No. 3 is one of my personal favorites), then the foundation provided by a good sub is noticible by omission. Listening to Brubec or Miles Davis you're not going to miss it.

    Off axis response is great on both as well, perhaps a bit better on the Carmel's, but still not likely as good as what you get out of your mbl's. Music sounds very listenable off axis, and localization is still decent, but soundstage width and depth are certainly compromised outside of a centralized listening position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomDac View Post
    I didn't get a chance to hear the ML Motion bookshelf model 35XT, which is their top of the line. Interesting how few reviews there are on this speaker and even less places to audition them... Once I heard the Kef R300s, it was game over.
    Maybe you can comment on this. I've read that a lot of folks prefer the R500 and R700 to the R900. Seemed crazy to me, but maybe there is something to it? I've also heard some people say they preferred Motion 40 to 60XT.

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    When I auditioned the Kef's, I heard the R700's as well and they were really outstanding, but since I was looking for a stand mount speaker, I didn't even consider them....
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    Hey Tom,

    Now that you've had the R300s for a while how do you feel about them, especially compared to your old Summits?

    I'm in a similar boat. I purchased a pair of LS50s for surround duty (they are phenomenal) and apparently once you go KEF...

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    Hey Boris,
    I'm happy with the R300's... they are what I expected they would be. Not as revealing as the Summits and the soundstage isn't as well defined either, but I really haven't tried to get them dialed in, as we are prepping for the big move, which will be happening in a few months. Once we move to the new place, I'll get them dialed in better... They're really being used for HT duty mainly..
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    Here's my current system. Kef R300s sitting atop Custom Designs FS104 stand (sand filled) being fed with Anthem Statement D2 as pre and Wyred4Sound MC500 Amplifier. Recently I had 6 people over for a listening party where everyone brought some music and EVERYONE thought the system sounded fantastic. I guess it sounds OK, but nowhere near the level that my Summits and Pass X250 was at. Good enuff for this room, I guess.

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    Way to go Tom !

    Although we have to admit, as Brad said, it's a little strange you and I not having Logans ......... for now !
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    Quote Originally Posted by twich54 View Post
    Way to go Tom !

    Although we have to admit, as Brad said, it's a little strange you and I not having Logans ......... for now !
    Yeah.. it's strange not having that electrostatic open and airy sound....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomDac View Post
    Yeah.. it's strange not having that electrostatic open and airy sound....
    and lest I forget, Tim is 'Loganless' as well !
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    Quote Originally Posted by twich54 View Post
    and lest I forget, Tim is 'Loganless' as well !
    Wow! All three mods (and Joey) without ML’s. We’re going to have to change the name of this site — the ex-MLOC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    Wow! All three mods (and Joey) without ML’s. We’re going to have to change the name of this site — the ex-MLOC.
    LOL. Well, you have that sweet Bose system... So that's 5 of us old-timers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomDac View Post
    LOL. Well, you have that sweet Bose system... So that's 5 of us old-timers.
    now lets not forget Gordon, he too is 'Loganless' !
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomDac View Post
    LOL. Well, you have that sweet Bose system... So that's 5 of us old-timers.
    LOL. Good point. I really need to update my system page...

    And Gordon, as Dave mentioned. And Justin. And timm is running Maggie’s, though I think he still has his Odysseys too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomDac View Post
    LOL. Well, you have that sweet Bose system... So that's 5 of us old-timers.
    At least you lot had 'Logans at some point. I don't think Rich ever had 'Logans.
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